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===Summary===
For the fastest completion time, farm the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw Fragment|Ancient Claw Fragments}} with the {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell|Slicing Winds}} build right after you finish {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave|qty=100}} clears.
===Introduction===
===Introduction===
{{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain.
The Ancient Claw is assembled from the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw Fragment|fragments}} that drop only from {{MonsterIcon|Pegasus}}. On average, {{formatnum:3333}} {{MonsterIcon|Pegasus|Pegasi}} kills are required in order to obtain enough fragments.
The question is when to farm it and what combat style is the best for that. The main point of contention is whether to farm it before or after the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}}, as this dungeon is farmed with a {{Icon|Melee}} build and is vital for idling the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}}.
To answer these questions, the following builds will be considered:
* {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell|Surge}} magic,
* {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|Rapier}} melee,
* {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} magic,
* {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet|Glacia}} magic.
These builds were chosen to show the changes that the various drops bring into farming Pegasus. {{Skill|Ranged}} builds were not considered because the {{MonsterIcon|Pegasus}} is {{Icon|Melee}} and has the highest evasion against Ranged in addition to the [[Combat Triangle]].
===Builds===
Each build assumes the following:
* The ring slot is always occupied with {{ItemIcon|Magical Ring}}.
* No [[Prayer|prayers]], [[Potions|potions]], or other buffs are enabled unless specified.
* {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}} is used.
* {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)}} is used as the [[Food]] of choice because it is considered a middle ground between starting out and being fully levelled in {{Skill|Firemaking}}, {{Skill|Fishing}}, {{Skill|Farming}}, and {{Skill|Cooking}}.
* The character is on the {{Icon|Hardcore}} game mode with all [[Combat]] skills at level 75. This means all builds presented here are suitable regardless of the game mode being played.
Skill levels are given so that these simulations may be replicated using the [[Combat Simulator]] add-in.


{{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain.
All intermediate steps can be found in [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GTuVLA0lWguB-72hiLNLmwAxNLNY0gSqkPGHpGmydHk/edit?usp=sharing this spreadsheet].


The Ancient Claw is assembled from the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw Fragment|fragments}} that drop only from the {{Icon|Pegasus|type=monster}}. You need to kill 3333 Pegasi on average to get enough fragments.
===={{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell|Surge}} Magic====
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Magic
|showDR=true
|helm1=Slayer Wizard Hat (Strong)
|neck1=Amulet of Magic
|cape1=Enchanted Cape
|ring1=Magical Ring
|body1=Slayer Wizard Robes (Strong)
|legs1=Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms
|shield1=Miolite Shield
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves
|boots1=Fire Expert Wizard Boots
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful)
}}


The question is when to farm it and what combat style is the best for that.
The average time to obtain all {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw Fragment|Ancient Claw Fragments|qty=100}} with this build is 122 hours. However, note that without Slayer gear this can be in excess of 283 hours.


To answer these question, we will consider the following builds:
===={{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|Rapier}} Melee====
* starter {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Hat|runecrafting}} magic,
{{Equipment/Recommended
* after-{{ZoneIcon|Deep Sea Ship|Ship}} melee,
|style=Melee
* after-{{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave|Volcanic}} magic,
|showDR=true
* after-{{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon|Glacia}} magic.
|helm1=Slayer Helmet (Strong)
|neck1=!{{ItemIcon|Amulet of Calculated Promotion|Promotion}} or {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Glory|Glory}}
|ring1=Magical Ring
|body1=Slayer Platebody (Strong)
|legs1=(G) Dragon Platelegs
|shield1=(G) Dragon Shield
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves
|boots1=(G) Dragon Boots
|weapon1=Sunset Rapier
}}


These builds were chosen to show the changes that the various drops bring into farming the Pegasus. The ranged builds were not considered because the {{Icon|Pegasus|type=monster}} is {{Icon|Melee}} and has the highest evasion against {{Skill|Ranged}}.
The grind time with this build is 67 hours. Without Slayer gear, this time increases significantly to 142 hours.


In the considered situations, no prayers, potions, or other buffs are enabled unless specified. <br>
===={{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} Magic====
The skill levels are given so you can replicate the simulations in the [[Combat Simulator]]. <br>
{{Equipment/Recommended
The Auto Eat level is {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}}. <br>
|style=Magic
The {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)}} is used as a food of choice.
|showDR=true
|helm1=Ancient Wizard Hat
|neck1=Elite Amulet of Magic
|cape1=Skull Cape
|ring1=Magical Ring
|body1=Ancient Wizard Robes
|legs1=Ancient Wizard Bottoms
|shield1=Miolite Shield
|gloves1=Elementalist Gloves
|boots1=Ancient Wizard Boots
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful)
}}


The ring slot is always occupied with {{ItemIcon|Magical Ring}}. If you can put something else in your ring slot and get into the {{ZoneIcon|High Lands}}, chances are you don't need a guide.
Reaching at least 20,000 accuracy is key for this build, as this prevents {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} from missing. Therefore, while the build only requires a minimum of {{SkillReq|Magic|72}}, and at most {{SkillReq|Magic|93}} or multiple accuracy bonuses from sources such as:
* {{ItemIcon|Magic Assistance Potion|Magic Assistance Potions}}
* {{Skill|Astrology}}
* {{Skill|Prayer}}
* {{Skill|Agility}}


===Starter magic===
{{Icon|Surge I|type=aurora}} or {{Icon|Surge II|type=aurora}} can be used if you can afford them.


{| class="wikitable"
Worth noting that using a {{ItemIcon|Mystic Air Staff}} will ''drastically'' reduce the amount of runes spent - especially while using Surge Auroras. The staff will be slower, and will require more [[Food]] due to the player taking a greater number of hits.
|-
! Item
! DR
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Hat}}
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Robes}}
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms}}
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Boots}}
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}}
| 2%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Enchanted Cape}}
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Magic}}
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Paladin Gloves}}
| 4%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)}}
| 0%
|-
| Total
| 26%
|}


{{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} is used with Combination Runes. All skills are at level 75.
'''Warning:''' Swapping {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}} for {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli}} will not significantly reduce kill times, while also forcing you to spend more runes and therefore more time Runecrafting.  


The [[Combat Simulator|simulation]] results are:
The grind time with this build is 48 hours. Slayer equipment has no impact on the clear speed in this case.
* 1358 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient runes}} spent,
* 151.9 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 23 Pegasi per hour.


<math>T_c = 151.9 * 18.875 = 2867</math>
===={{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet|Glacia}} Magic====
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Magic
|showDR=true
|helm1=Glacia God Helmet
|neck1=Elite Amulet of Magic
|cape1=Infernal Cape
|ring1=Magical Ring
|body1=Glacia God Platebody
|legs1=Glacia God Platelegs
|shield1=Miolite Shield
|gloves1=Glacia God Gloves
|boots1=Glacia God Boots
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful)
}}


<math>T_m = (N * 7 * (1 + 2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + N / 16) * 1.3 = N / 16 * (8.75 + 1) * 1.3 = N * 12.675 / 16</math>
The grind time with this build is 44 hours.


<math>T_r = N * 9.75 * 2 / 16 = N * 9.75 / 8</math>
However, this build implies that the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}} would need to be cleared with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}, which is a sizeable loss of DPS that will cost more than 4 hours of the difference between this build and the Slicing Winds build.


<math>N = 1358</math>
==Analysis==
Essentially, we want to know which of two sequences is faster:
* Rapier → Claw → Volcano,
* Rapier → Volcano → Claw.


<math>T_m = 1358 * 12.675 / 16 = 1076</math>
====Full-Sunset Volcano vs Full-Claw Volcano====
Let's consider the builds Rapier and Slicing Winds.


<math>T_r = 1358 * 9.75 / 8 = 1655</math>
The difference between their timings of completing the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} is 19 hours.


The adjusted time <math>A_{start} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 2867 + 1076 + 1655) / 23 = 400</math>
The Volcano grind of the full {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set is longer with the with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} than it is with the Claw.


In other words, the time that is required to get all resources for killing one Pegasus and to actually kill it is 400 seconds.
The question is then if the difference between the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|rapier}} and the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} in the Volcanic grind is bigger than 19 hours.  


The overall time to get all resources and kill all Pegasi is <math>400 * 3333 / 3600 = 371 \text{ hours}.</math>
We know the length of "Rapier → Claw" and "Volcano → Claw", but we need the data on "Rapier → Volcano" and "Claw → Volcano".


===After-Ship melee===
We take this data from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice]].


{| class="wikitable"  
{| class="wikitable"  
|-
|-
! Item
! Item
! DR
! Adjusted clears per hour
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Helmet}}
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platebody}}
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platelegs}}
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Boots}}
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Shield}}
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Calculated Promotion}}
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Paladin Gloves}}
| 4%
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 0%
| 5.204
|-
|-
| Total
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 34%
| 5.412
|}
|}


All skills are at level 75.
The goal of clearing the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} is to get the {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set.


The simulation results are:
As specified on in the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide]], you need 1350 clears to almost certainly get a full set of Ancient armour or 832 clears to have a 75% chance. The median (50% of results) is 564 clears.
* 33.2 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 26.57 Pegasi per hour.
 
<math>T_c = 33.2 * 18.875 = 626.7</math>
 
The adjusted time <math>A_{ship} = (3600 + 626.7) / 26.57 = 159.08</math>
 
The overall time is <math>159.08 * 3333 / 3600 = 148 \text{ hours}.</math>
 
 
===After-Volcanic magic===


{| class="wikitable"  
{| class="wikitable"  
|-
|-
! Item
! Item
! DR
! Adjusted clears per hour
! 564 clears (h)
! 832 clears (h)
! 1350 clears (h)
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Wizard Hat}}
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 5%
| 5.204
|-
| 108.4
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Wizard Robes}}
| 160
| 5%
| 259.4
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Wizard Bottoms}}
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 5%
| 5.412
| 104.2
| 153.7
| 249.5
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Wizard Boots}}
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Difference (h)
| 5%
| 4.2
|-
| 6.3
| {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli}}
| 10.1
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Enchanted Cape}}
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Magic}}
| 2%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Elementalist Gloves}}
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)}}
| 0%
|-
| Total
| 22%
|}
|}


All skills are at level 75 except {{SkillReq|Magic|91}}. With the following setup, you should have exactly 20k accuracy on {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}}, they cannot miss now.
The biggest difference is 10 hours. It means that Rapier → Volcano → Claw is faster than Rapier → Claw → Volcano by at least 9 hours.
 
The simulation results are:
* 4905 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient runes}} spent,
* 172.4 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 196.2 Pegasi per hour.
 
<math>T_c = 172.4 * 18.875 = 3254</math>
 
<math>T_m = (N * 20 + N) / 16 * 1.3 = N * 21 / 16 * 1.3 = N * 27.3 / 16</math>
 
<math>T_r = N * 21 * 2 / 16 = N * 21 / 8</math>
 
<math>N = 4905</math>
 
<math>T_m = 4905 * 27.3 / 16 = 8370</math>
 
<math>T_r = 4905 * 21 / 8 = 12876</math>


The adjusted time <math>A_{volcano} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 3254 + 8370 + 12876) / 196.2 = 143.2</math>
However, what if we were to use the [[Ancient Magicks]] as soon as we unlock it?


The overall time is <math>143.2 * 3333 / 3600 = 133 \text{ hours}.</math>
====Sunset/Ancient Volcano vs Claw/Ancient Volcano====
It is possible to clear the Volcano using [[Ancient Magicks]] with the build from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic]]. Pay attention that you need 37% DR with {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=920|HP}} to idle it. That amount of DR is reached either through the {{PrayerIcon|Stone Skin}} prayer or through the {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion II|DR potion II}}. Without prayer or potions, you need {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=940|HP}}.


If we consider that we clear only 100 Volcanoes as a melee build and the rest as the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic|100-Volcanoes]] Magic build, then we compare the two sequences:


===After-Glacia magic===
* Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
* 100 Rapier Volcanoes + Claw farm with Ancient Magicks.


{| class="wikitable"  
{| class="wikitable"  
|-
|-
! Item
! Item
! DR
! Adjusted clears per hour
! 100 clears (h)
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet}}
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 8%
| 5.204
|-
| 19.22
| {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Platebody}}
| 8%
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Platelegs}}
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 8%
| 5.412
| 18.48
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Boots}}
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Difference (h)
| 8%
| 0.74
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Gloves}}
| 8%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}}
| 2%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Infernal Cape}}
| 4%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Magic}}
| 2%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)}}
| 0%
|-
| Total
| 45%
|}
|}


The levels are the same as in the Volcanic build. Due to Ancient Magic not benefiting from gear, the build was aimed to cram as much DR and melee evasion as possible. If you have Magic higher than lvl 91, you might get a better build while still having the required 20k accuracy.
In other words, the advantage of farming 100 {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave|Volcanic Caves}} with the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} when compared to the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} is approximately 45 minutes.
 
Now we consider the rearranged sum of what we compare:
 
* Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
* Claw farm with Slicing Winds + 100 Rapier Volcanoes.


The simulation results are:
We subtract the second row from the first one and get
* 4905 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient runes}} spent,
* 47.7 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 196.2 Pegasi per hour.


As the number of runes is the same, <math>T_m = 8370.</math> <math>T_r = 12876.</math>
<math>19 - 0.74 = 18.26</math>


<math>T_c = 47.7 * 18.875 = 900.3</math>
In other words the sequence where we farm the Claw after the Volcano is faster than the sequence of farming the claw with Rapier by slightly over 18 hours.


The adjusted time <math>A_{volcano} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 900.3 + 8370 + 12876) / 196.2 = 131.2</math>
==Conclusion==
Farm the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} with the {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} build right after you finish {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave|qty=100|Volcanic Caves}}. Don't forget to enable the Surge aurora.


The overall time is <math>131.2 * 3333 / 3600 = 121.5 \text{ hours}.</math>
If you cannot use this build for some reason, then use the Rapier melee build with Slayer gear.


(this is a work-in-progress page. Currently I stopped there.
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TODO: 1. check if Volcanic can get a bit more defense to reduce the food drain. 2.Describe the Air Dungeon as the main point of contention.)
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Latest revision as of 00:53, 6 August 2023

This page was last updated for (v1.0.5).

Summary

For the fastest completion time, farm the Ancient Claw Fragments with the Slicing Winds build right after you finish 100 Volcanic Cave clears.

Introduction

Ancient Claw is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain.

The Ancient Claw is assembled from the fragments that drop only from Pegasus. On average, 3,333 Pegasi kills are required in order to obtain enough fragments.

The question is when to farm it and what combat style is the best for that. The main point of contention is whether to farm it before or after the Volcanic Cave, as this dungeon is farmed with a Melee build and is vital for idling the Air God Dungeon.

To answer these questions, the following builds will be considered:

These builds were chosen to show the changes that the various drops bring into farming Pegasus. Ranged builds were not considered because the Pegasus is Melee and has the highest evasion against Ranged in addition to the Combat Triangle.

Builds

Each build assumes the following:

Skill levels are given so that these simulations may be replicated using the Combat Simulator add-in.

All intermediate steps can be found in this spreadsheet.

Surge Magic

The average time to obtain all 100 Ancient Claw Fragments with this build is 122 hours. However, note that without Slayer gear this can be in excess of 283 hours.

Rapier Melee

The grind time with this build is 67 hours. Without Slayer gear, this time increases significantly to 142 hours.

Slicing Winds Magic

Reaching at least 20,000 accuracy is key for this build, as this prevents Slicing Winds from missing. Therefore, while the build only requires a minimum of Magic Level 72, and at most Magic Level 93 or multiple accuracy bonuses from sources such as:

Surge I or Surge II can be used if you can afford them.

Worth noting that using a Mystic Air Staff will drastically reduce the amount of runes spent - especially while using Surge Auroras. The staff will be slower, and will require more Food due to the player taking a greater number of hits.

Warning: Swapping Miolite Shield for Book of Eli will not significantly reduce kill times, while also forcing you to spend more runes and therefore more time Runecrafting.

The grind time with this build is 48 hours. Slayer equipment has no impact on the clear speed in this case.

Glacia Magic

The grind time with this build is 44 hours.

However, this build implies that the Air God Dungeon would need to be cleared with Sunset Rapier, which is a sizeable loss of DPS that will cost more than 4 hours of the difference between this build and the Slicing Winds build.

Analysis

Essentially, we want to know which of two sequences is faster:

  • Rapier → Claw → Volcano,
  • Rapier → Volcano → Claw.

Full-Sunset Volcano vs Full-Claw Volcano

Let's consider the builds Rapier and Slicing Winds.

The difference between their timings of completing the claw is 19 hours.

The Volcano grind of the full ancient set is longer with the with Sunset Rapier than it is with the Claw.

The question is then if the difference between the rapier and the claw in the Volcanic grind is bigger than 19 hours.

We know the length of "Rapier → Claw" and "Volcano → Claw", but we need the data on "Rapier → Volcano" and "Claw → Volcano".

We take this data from Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice.

Item Adjusted clears per hour
Sunset Rapier 5.204
Ancient Claw 5.412

The goal of clearing the Volcanic Cave is to get the ancient set.

As specified on in the Volcanic Cave/Guide, you need 1350 clears to almost certainly get a full set of Ancient armour or 832 clears to have a 75% chance. The median (50% of results) is 564 clears.

Item Adjusted clears per hour 564 clears (h) 832 clears (h) 1350 clears (h)
Sunset Rapier 5.204 108.4 160 259.4
Ancient Claw 5.412 104.2 153.7 249.5
Difference (h) 4.2 6.3 10.1

The biggest difference is 10 hours. It means that Rapier → Volcano → Claw is faster than Rapier → Claw → Volcano by at least 9 hours.

However, what if we were to use the Ancient Magicks as soon as we unlock it?

Sunset/Ancient Volcano vs Claw/Ancient Volcano

It is possible to clear the Volcano using Ancient Magicks with the build from Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic. Pay attention that you need 37% DR with 920 HP to idle it. That amount of DR is reached either through the Stone Skin prayer or through the DR potion II. Without prayer or potions, you need 940 HP.

If we consider that we clear only 100 Volcanoes as a melee build and the rest as the 100-Volcanoes Magic build, then we compare the two sequences:

  • Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
  • 100 Rapier Volcanoes + Claw farm with Ancient Magicks.
Item Adjusted clears per hour 100 clears (h)
Sunset Rapier 5.204 19.22
Ancient Claw 5.412 18.48
Difference (h) 0.74

In other words, the advantage of farming 100 Volcanic Caves with the Ancient Claw when compared to the Sunset Rapier is approximately 45 minutes.

Now we consider the rearranged sum of what we compare:

  • Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
  • Claw farm with Slicing Winds + 100 Rapier Volcanoes.

We subtract the second row from the first one and get

[math]\displaystyle{ 19 - 0.74 = 18.26 }[/math]

In other words the sequence where we farm the Claw after the Volcano is faster than the sequence of farming the claw with Rapier by slightly over 18 hours.

Conclusion

Farm the Ancient Claw with the Slicing Winds build right after you finish 100 Volcanic Caves. Don't forget to enable the Surge aurora.

If you cannot use this build for some reason, then use the Rapier melee build with Slayer gear.