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===Gear===
===Why Clear Dragons Den?===
{{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} is usually cleared for the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Crossbow}}, {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces}}, and {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} because they are wanted for the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Air God Dungeon/Guide|Air]] and {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Water God Dungeon/Guide|Water]] God Dungeons. The {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} can be upgraded into the {{ItemIcon|Scaled Shield}}, a bis ranged shield for a very long time.


While there are many ways to beat [[Dragons Den]], the simplest way to idle stuff is with a melee build.
Other parts of the {{ItemIcon|Ancient D-hide Body|Ancient}} set are of little importance because you will use the {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Helmet|notext=true}} [[Aeris God Armour]] for the {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon}}. Keep them only if you didn't already get your {{Skill|Ranged}} to level 85.


Given a melee build, and assuming the player has {{Skill|Smithing}} level 99 already, one can use the following build with 750 HP, and [[Auto Eat - Tier III]].  
===Gear to idle===
 
Because all enemies in {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} are {{Icon|Melee}}, it is advised to use a {{Skill|Magic}} or {{Icon|Melee}} build due to the [[Combat Triangle]].
 
This guide assumes that you have {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}}. {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} were used as a food of choice to reflect the approximate cooking level at the time of clearing the dungeon.
 
The simulations are run on a character with lvl 80 in all combat skills except {{Skill|Hitpoints}}.
 
Due to the wide range of cases, it is recommended to use the [[Combat Simulator]] to compare the options tailored for your situation.
 
The ring slot in the given builds is free. It is suggested to use {{ItemIcon|Ring of Wealth}} if you have it or {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}} otherwise.
 
According to the [https://github.com/hm0809/MelvorProbDist/blob/main/main.py simulation] - it takes, on average, 506 Elder Chest opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}}. It takes 657 opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} with a 75% probability and 1165 opens to obtain all items with a 95% probability.
 
 
====Basic Magic====
 
Below is a basic build that needs {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|90}} to create, {{SkillReq|Magic|78}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=870|type=skill|HP}} to idle.
 
The spell of choice is {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with combination runes.
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Magic
|showDR=true
|helm1=Fire Expert Wizard Hat
|neck1=Amulet of Magic
|body1=Fire Expert Wizard Robes
|legs1=Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful)
|shield1=Miolite Shield
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves
|boots1=Fire Expert Wizard Boots
}}
 
====Melee====
 
The following build needs {{SkillReq|Smithing|99}} to create, {{SkillReq|Attack|70}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=780|type=skill|HP}} to idle.
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Melee
|showDR=true
|helm1=(G) Dragon Helmet
|neck1=!{{ItemIcon|Amulet of Calculated Promotion|Promotion}} or {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Glory|Glory}}
|body1=(G) Dragon Platebody
|legs1=(G) Dragon Platelegs
|weapon1=!{{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} or {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
|shield1=(G) Dragon Shield
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves
|boots1=(G) Dragon Boots
}}
 
====Advanced Magic====
For comparison, here's the magic build that takes less time to acquire than the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} and needs {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=860|type=skill|HP}} to idle.
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Magic
|showDR=true
|helm1=Fire Expert Wizard Hat
|neck1=Elite Amulet of Defence
|cape1=Skull Cape
|body1=Fire Expert Wizard Robes
|legs1=Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful)
|shield1=Book of Eli
|gloves1=Elementalist Gloves
|boots1=Fire Expert Wizard Boots
}}
 
===Adjusted Clear Time===
Adjusted clear time is the time it takes to prepare all needed food and runes plus the time of the clear itself.
{| class="wikitable"  
{| class="wikitable"  
! Build
! Adjusted clears per hour
|-
|-
! Item
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
! Slot
| 3.7
! DR%
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Helmet}}
| Basic Magic
| Head
| 4.1
| 6%
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platebody}}
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| Body
| 4.1
| 6%
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platelegs}}
| Advanced Magic
| Leggings
| 5.8
| 6%
|}
 
{{SpoilerBox|text=
Adjusted clear time <math>A</math> is calculated by dividing the overall time <math>T_{all}</math> by the number of dungeons <math>D_h</math> cleared per one hour.
 
The overall time <math>T_{all}</math> is calculated by the sum of one hour plus the time required to produce the {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} <math>T_c</math>, mine essence <math>T_m</math>, and create runes <math>T_r</math>. All measured in seconds. The number of spent {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes is noted as <math>N</math>.
 
The {{ItemIcon|Crab}} total preparation time is 6.9 seconds per Crab.
 
The {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with the combination runes is used.
 
The approximate {{Icon|Adventure}} situation is taken for Runecrafting. In particular, {{ItemIcon|Mining Gloves}} and {{ItemIcon|Elemental Potion IV|Elemental Potion}} are not used. The Runecrafting 95% milestone of the mastery pool is active, and the runes have 99 mastery, meaning that 16 runes are produced per two seconds. No rune preservation or doubling.
 
The mining time is the one with the {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Pickaxe}} upgrade - 1.3 seconds. The number of needed essence considers all runes used in crafting: {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|Essence}}, {{ItemIcon|Air Rune|Air}}, {{ItemIcon|Fire Rune|Fire}}, {{ItemIcon|Smoke Rune|Smoke}} and {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes.
 
<math>T_m = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + 1 / 16 + 7 / 16) * 1.3 = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) + 1) / 16 * 1.3 + 7 / 16 * 1.3</math>
 
For <math>T_r</math> compared to <math>T_m</math>, the difference is that we don't account for one rune essence in the {{ItemIcon|Smoke Rune}} because we don't need to runecraft it separately unlike all other parts of the formula.
 
<math>T_r = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) + 1) / 16 * 2</math>
 
You can check out the intermediate steps with the following Google Sheet ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wkic1HnSjkvFuq78UhuIe4BUTxc1EcedhRIcKsXRq0I/edit#gid=0 link]).
|title=Details|color=default}}
 
Advanced Magic is the clear leader, therefore it is recommended to farm the Dragons Den dungeon with the Advanced Magic build.
 
====Food Expenditure====
The bulk of time is spent on preparing food, so it's heavily recommended to level your food-producing methods when possible. As an example, with some upgrades ({{ItemIcon|Fishing Skillcape}}, {{ItemIcon|Cooking Skillcape}}, 99 mastery, top fishing rod, {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Fishing}}), the fishing and cooking times are the following:
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Boots}}
! Food
| Boots
! Fishing time (s)
| 6%
! Cooking time (s)
! HP
! HP per second
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(U) Black D-hide Vambraces}}
| {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)}}
| Hands
| 1.97
| 5%
| 9.35
| 580
| 51.2
|-
|-
| Subtotal
| {{ItemIcon|Crab}}
|
| 0.96
| 29%
| 5.95
|-
| 150
|
| 21.7
|
|
|-
|
| Cape
|
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Defence}}
| Neck
| 2%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}}
| Ring
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Shield}}
| Off-hand
| 6%
|-
|
|
|
|-
| Total
|  
| 37%
|}
|}


For your weapon, you'd want to use a {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}, but in the lack of something better you could reasonably use a {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} instead, since it takes a bit less time to get your hands on.
In other words, if you prepare Whales instead of Crabs, you would more than double your speed of food preparation, which is a huge boost to the clear time.
 
Note that many of these items can be swapped out for better items, and there's some variance between what the player will have access to, and what levels they have. For a full reference check the table made by Aurora Aquir#4272 below.
 
===Table===
 
https://i.imgur.com/lpb3Ufh.jpg


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