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===Summary=== | |||
For the fastest completion time, farm the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw Fragment|Ancient Claw Fragments}} with the {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell|Slicing Winds}} build right after you finish {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave|qty=100}} clears. | |||
===Introduction=== | ===Introduction=== | ||
{{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain. | {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain. | ||
The Ancient Claw is assembled from the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw Fragment|fragments}} that drop only from | The Ancient Claw is assembled from the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw Fragment|fragments}} that drop only from {{MonsterIcon|Pegasus}}. On average, {{formatnum:3333}} {{MonsterIcon|Pegasus|Pegasi}} kills are required in order to obtain enough fragments. | ||
The question is when to farm it and what combat style is the best for that. The main point of contention is whether to farm it before or after the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} | The question is when to farm it and what combat style is the best for that. The main point of contention is whether to farm it before or after the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}}, as this dungeon is farmed with a {{Icon|Melee}} build and is vital for idling the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}}. | ||
To answer these questions, | To answer these questions, the following builds will be considered: | ||
* | * {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell|Surge}} magic, | ||
* {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} melee, | * {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|Rapier}} melee, | ||
* | * {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} magic, | ||
* | * {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet|Glacia}} magic. | ||
These builds were chosen to show the changes that the various drops bring into farming | These builds were chosen to show the changes that the various drops bring into farming Pegasus. {{Skill|Ranged}} builds were not considered because the {{MonsterIcon|Pegasus}} is {{Icon|Melee}} and has the highest evasion against Ranged in addition to the [[Combat Triangle]]. | ||
===Builds=== | ===Builds=== | ||
Each build assumes the following: | |||
* The ring slot is always occupied with {{ItemIcon|Magical Ring}}. | |||
* No [[Prayer|prayers]], [[Potions|potions]], or other buffs are enabled unless specified. | |||
* {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}} is used. | |||
* {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)}} is used as the [[Food]] of choice because it is considered a middle ground between starting out and being fully levelled in {{Skill|Firemaking}}, {{Skill|Fishing}}, {{Skill|Farming}}, and {{Skill|Cooking}}. | |||
* The character is on the {{Icon|Hardcore}} game mode with all [[Combat]] skills at level 75. This means all builds presented here are suitable regardless of the game mode being played. | |||
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Skill levels are given so that these simulations may be replicated using the [[Combat Simulator]] add-in. | |||
All intermediate steps can be found in [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GTuVLA0lWguB-72hiLNLmwAxNLNY0gSqkPGHpGmydHk/edit?usp=sharing this spreadsheet]. | |||
===={{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell|Surge}} Magic==== | |||
{{Equipment/Recommended | |||
|style=Magic | |||
|showDR=true | |||
|helm1=Slayer Wizard Hat (Strong) | |||
|neck1=Amulet of Magic | |||
|cape1=Enchanted Cape | |||
|ring1=Magical Ring | |||
|body1=Slayer Wizard Robes (Strong) | |||
|legs1=Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms | |||
|shield1=Miolite Shield | |||
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves | |||
|boots1=Fire Expert Wizard Boots | |||
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful) | |||
}} | |||
The average time to obtain all {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw Fragment|Ancient Claw Fragments|qty=100}} with this build is 122 hours. However, note that without Slayer gear this can be in excess of 283 hours. | |||
===={{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|Rapier}} Melee==== | |||
{{Equipment/Recommended | |||
|style=Melee | |||
|showDR=true | |||
|helm1=Slayer Helmet (Strong) | |||
|neck1=!{{ItemIcon|Amulet of Calculated Promotion|Promotion}} or {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Glory|Glory}} | |||
|ring1=Magical Ring | |||
|body1=Slayer Platebody (Strong) | |||
|legs1=(G) Dragon Platelegs | |||
|shield1=(G) Dragon Shield | |||
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves | |||
|boots1=(G) Dragon Boots | |||
|weapon1=Sunset Rapier | |||
}} | |||
The grind time with this build is 67 hours. Without Slayer gear, this time increases significantly to 142 hours. | |||
===={{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} Magic==== | |||
{{Equipment/Recommended | |||
|style=Magic | |||
|showDR=true | |||
|helm1=Ancient Wizard Hat | |||
|neck1=Elite Amulet of Magic | |||
|cape1=Skull Cape | |||
|ring1=Magical Ring | |||
|body1=Ancient Wizard Robes | |||
|legs1=Ancient Wizard Bottoms | |||
|shield1=Miolite Shield | |||
|gloves1=Elementalist Gloves | |||
|boots1=Ancient Wizard Boots | |||
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful) | |||
}} | |||
Reaching at least 20,000 accuracy is key for this build, as this prevents {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} from missing. Therefore, while the build only requires a minimum of {{SkillReq|Magic|72}}, and at most {{SkillReq|Magic|93}} or multiple accuracy bonuses from sources such as: | |||
* {{ItemIcon|Magic Assistance Potion|Magic Assistance Potions}} | |||
* {{Skill|Astrology}} | |||
* {{Skill|Prayer}} | |||
* {{Skill|Agility}} | |||
{{Icon|Surge I|type=aurora}} or {{Icon|Surge II|type=aurora}} can be used if you can afford them. | |||
Worth noting that using a {{ItemIcon|Mystic Air Staff}} will ''drastically'' reduce the amount of runes spent - especially while using Surge Auroras. The staff will be slower, and will require more [[Food]] due to the player taking a greater number of hits. | |||
'''Warning:''' Swapping {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}} for {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli}} will not significantly reduce kill times, while also forcing you to spend more runes and therefore more time Runecrafting. | |||
The grind time with this build is 48 hours. Slayer equipment has no impact on the clear speed in this case. | |||
===={{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet|Glacia}} Magic==== | |||
{{Equipment/Recommended | |||
|style=Magic | |||
|showDR=true | |||
|helm1=Glacia God Helmet | |||
|neck1=Elite Amulet of Magic | |||
|cape1=Infernal Cape | |||
|ring1=Magical Ring | |||
|body1=Glacia God Platebody | |||
|legs1=Glacia God Platelegs | |||
|shield1=Miolite Shield | |||
|gloves1=Glacia God Gloves | |||
|boots1=Glacia God Boots | |||
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful) | |||
}} | |||
The grind time with this build is 44 hours. | |||
However, this build implies that the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}} would need to be cleared with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}, which is a sizeable loss of DPS that will cost more than 4 hours of the difference between this build and the Slicing Winds build. | |||
==Analysis== | ==Analysis== | ||
Essentially, we want to know which of two sequences is faster: | Essentially, we want to know which of two sequences is faster: | ||
* Rapier | * Rapier → Claw → Volcano, | ||
* Rapier | * Rapier → Volcano → Claw. | ||
====Full-Sunset Volcano vs Full-Claw Volcano==== | ====Full-Sunset Volcano vs Full-Claw Volcano==== | ||
Let's consider the | Let's consider the builds Rapier and Slicing Winds. | ||
The difference between their timings of completing the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} is | The difference between their timings of completing the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} is 19 hours. | ||
The Volcano grind of the full {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set is longer with the with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} than it is with the Claw. | The Volcano grind of the full {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set is longer with the with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} than it is with the Claw. | ||
The question is then if the difference between the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|rapier}} and the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} in the Volcanic grind is bigger than | The question is then if the difference between the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|rapier}} and the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} in the Volcanic grind is bigger than 19 hours. | ||
We know the length of " | We know the length of "Rapier → Claw" and "Volcano → Claw", but we need the data on "Rapier → Volcano" and "Claw → Volcano". | ||
We take this data from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice]]. | We take this data from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice]]. | ||
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|- | |- | ||
! Item | ! Item | ||
! Adjusted | ! Adjusted clears per hour | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} | | {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} | ||
| | | 5.204 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} | | {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} | ||
| | | 5.412 | ||
|} | |} | ||
The goal of clearing the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} is to get the {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set. | The goal of clearing the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} is to get the {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set. | ||
As specified on in the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide]], you need 1350 clears to almost certainly get a full set of Ancient | As specified on in the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide]], you need 1350 clears to almost certainly get a full set of Ancient armour or 832 clears to have a 75% chance. The median (50% of results) is 564 clears. | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Item | ! Item | ||
! Adjusted | ! Adjusted clears per hour | ||
! 564 clears (h) | ! 564 clears (h) | ||
! 832 clears (h) | ! 832 clears (h) | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} | | {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} | ||
| | | 5.204 | ||
| | | 108.4 | ||
| | | 160 | ||
| | | 259.4 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} | | {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} | ||
| | | 5.412 | ||
| | | 104.2 | ||
| | | 153.7 | ||
| | | 249.5 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Difference (h) | ! scope="row" colspan="2" | Difference (h) | ||
| | | 4.2 | ||
| | | 6.3 | ||
| | | 10.1 | ||
|} | |} | ||
The biggest difference is 10 hours. It means that Rapier → Volcano → Claw is faster than Rapier → Claw → Volcano by at least 9 hours. | |||
However, what if we were to use the [[Ancient Magicks]] as soon as we unlock it? | However, what if we were to use the [[Ancient Magicks]] as soon as we unlock it? | ||
====Sunset/Ancient Volcano vs Claw/Ancient Volcano==== | ====Sunset/Ancient Volcano vs Claw/Ancient Volcano==== | ||
It is possible to clear the Volcano using | It is possible to clear the Volcano using [[Ancient Magicks]] with the build from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic]]. Pay attention that you need 37% DR with {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=920|HP}} to idle it. That amount of DR is reached either through the {{PrayerIcon|Stone Skin}} prayer or through the {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion II|DR potion II}}. Without prayer or potions, you need {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=940|HP}}. | ||
If we consider that we clear only 100 Volcanoes as a melee build and the rest as the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic|100-Volcanoes]] Magic build, then we compare the two sequences: | If we consider that we clear only 100 Volcanoes as a melee build and the rest as the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic|100-Volcanoes]] Magic build, then we compare the two sequences: | ||
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|- | |- | ||
! Item | ! Item | ||
! Adjusted | ! Adjusted clears per hour | ||
! 100 clears (h) | ! 100 clears (h) | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} | | {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} | ||
| | | 5.204 | ||
| | | 19.22 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} | | {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} | ||
| | | 5.412 | ||
| | | 18.48 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Difference (h) | ! scope="row" colspan="2" | Difference (h) | ||
| | | 0.74 | ||
|} | |} | ||
In other words, the advantage of farming 100 Volcanic Caves with the Claw when compared to the Sunset Rapier is | In other words, the advantage of farming 100 {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave|Volcanic Caves}} with the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} when compared to the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} is approximately 45 minutes. | ||
Now we consider the rearranged sum of what we compare: | |||
* Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes, | * Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes, | ||
* Claw farm with | * Claw farm with Slicing Winds + 100 Rapier Volcanoes. | ||
We subtract the second row from the first one and get | |||
<math> | <math>19 - 0.74 = 18.26</math> | ||
In other words the sequence where we farm the Claw after the Volcano is faster than the sequence of farming the claw with Rapier by | In other words the sequence where we farm the Claw after the Volcano is faster than the sequence of farming the claw with Rapier by slightly over 18 hours. | ||
== Conclusion == | ==Conclusion== | ||
Farm the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} with the {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} build right after you finish {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave|qty=100|Volcanic Caves}}. Don't forget to enable the Surge aurora. | |||
If you cannot use this build for some reason, then use the Rapier melee build with Slayer gear. | |||
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