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===Builds===
===Builds===
The simulations were done for {{Icon|Hardcore}} with all skills on level 75.
All intermediate steps can be found in this spreadsheet ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GTuVLA0lWguB-72hiLNLmwAxNLNY0gSqkPGHpGmydHk/edit?usp=sharing link]).
===={{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell|Surge}} magic====
===={{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell|Surge}} magic====


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The grind time with this build is 141 hour.<br>
{{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} is used with Combination Runes. All skills are at level 75.
However, pay attention that it would be more than 331 hours without the Slayer gear.
 
The [[Combat Simulator|simulation]] results are:
* 1307 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient runes}} spent,
* 163 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 67.7 Pegasi per hour.
 
<math>T_c = 163 * 18.875 = 3077</math>
 
<math>T_m = (N * 7 * (1 + 2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + N / 16) * 1.3 = N / 16 * (8.75 + 1) * 1.3 = N * 12.675 / 16</math>
 
<math>T_r = N * 9.75 * 2 / 16 = N * 9.75 / 8</math>
 
<math>N = 1307</math>
 
<math>T_m = 1307 * 12.675 / 16 = 1035</math>
 
<math>T_r = 1307 * 9.75 / 8 = 1593</math>
 
The adjusted time <math>A_{start} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 3077 + 1035 + 1593) / 67.7 = 137.5</math>
 
In other words, the time that is required to get all resources for killing one Pegasus and to actually kill it is 400 seconds.
 
The overall time to get all resources and kill all Pegasi is <math>137.5 * 3333 / 3600 = 127 \text{ hours}.</math>
 
The calculations in this whole guide don't take the Pegasus respawn time of 4 seconds into the account. It doesn't affect the ratio between the methods. If you want to add them, go ahead.
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The overall time to get all resources and kill all Pegasi is 127 hours. However, pay attention that without the Slayer gear, it will be 371 hours.


===={{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|Rapier}} melee====
===={{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|Rapier}} melee====
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All skills are at level 75.
The simulation results are:
* 49.4 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 61.6 Pegasi per hour.
<math>T_c = 49.4 * 18.875 = 932.4</math>


The adjusted time <math>A_{ship} = (3600 + 932.4) / 61.6 = 73.6</math>
The grind time with this build is 67 hours.<br>
 
If you don't use the Slayer gear, the grind time with this build will be 142 hours.
The overall time is <math>73.6 * 3333 / 3600 = 68 \text{ hours}.</math>
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The overall grind time with this build is 68 hours. However, pay attention that if you don't use the Slayer gear, the overall time with this build will be 148 hours.


===={{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} magic====
===={{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} magic====
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All skills are at level 75 except {{SkillReq|Magic|91}}. With the following setup, you should have exactly 20k accuracy on {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}}, they cannot miss now.


The simulation results with the {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}} are:
You need {{SkillReq|Magic|88}} for this build.<br>
* 4905 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient runes}} spent,
With the following setup, you should have a bit more than 20k accuracy on {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}}, which means they won't miss at all.
* 107.9 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 196.2 Pegasi per hour.
 
<math>T_c = 107.9 * 18.875 = 2037</math>
 
<math>T_m = (N * 4 + N) / 16 * 1.3 = N * 5 / 16 * 1.3 = N * 6.5 / 16</math>
 
<math>T_r = N * 5 * 2 / 16 = N * 5 / 8</math>
 
<math>N = 4905</math>
 
<math>T_m = 4905 * 6.5 / 16 = 1993</math>
 
<math>T_r = 4905 * 5 / 8 = 3066</math>
 
The adjusted time <math>A_{volcano} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 2037 + 1993 + 3066) / 196.2 = 54.52</math>
 
The overall time is <math>54.52 * 3333 / 3600 = 50.48 \text{ hours}.</math>
 
 
If you swap from {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}} to {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli}}, it will only increase the clear time because your melee defence would plummet, resulting in many more Whales eaten.
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The overall grind time with this build is 51 hours. The slayer gear doesn't add to the clear speed in this case.


Warning: Swapping {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}} to {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli}} will only increase the clear time because your melee defence would plummet, resulting in much more food eaten.


Overall, you want to put as much DR and Melee defence as possible when maintaining the 20k accuracy.  
Overall, you want to put as much DR and Melee defence as possible when maintaining the 20k accuracy.  


For instance, if you have {{SkillReq|Magic|93}} with the build above, you can swap {{ItemIcon|Enchanted Cape}} with {{ItemIcon|Fire Cape}} and reduce the food consumption even further.
For instance, if you have higher {{Skill|Magic}}, you might be able to swap {{ItemIcon|Enchanted Cape}} with {{ItemIcon|Fire Cape}} and reduce the food consumption even further.


The rune mining and crafting take the bulk of the time, so you might want to use all preservation and doubling bonuses that you have.
The grind time with this build is 48 hours. The slayer gear doesn't add to the clear speed in this case.


===={{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet|Glacia}} magic====
===={{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet|Glacia}} magic====
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The levels are the same as in the Volcanic build. Due to Ancient Magic not benefiting from gear, the build was aimed to cram as much DR and melee evasion as possible. If you have {{SkillReq|Magic|95}}, you should be able to swap for {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Defence}} while still having the required 20k accuracy.
{{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} are used.
The simulation results are:
* 4905 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient runes}} spent,
* 47.7 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 196.2 Pegasi per hour.
As the number of runes is the same, <math>T_m = 1993.</math> <math>T_r = 3066.</math>
<math>T_c = 47.7 * 18.875 = 900.3</math>
The adjusted time <math>A_{glacia} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 900.3 + 1993 + 3066) / 196.2 = 48.72</math>


The overall time is <math>48.72 * 3333 / 3600 = 45.1 \text{ hours}.</math>
The grind time with this build is 44 hours.
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The overall grind time with this build is 45 hours. But this build implies that you go through the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}} with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}, which is a sizeable loss of DPS that will cost you more than 6 hours of the difference between this build and the Ancient Magick build.
However, this build implies that you go through the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}} with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}, which is a sizeable loss of DPS that will cost you more than 4 hours of the difference between this build and the Slicing Winds build.


==Analysis==
==Analysis==
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