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There are no downsides to attempting Volcanic Cave early as you will obtain powerful gear if you manage to complete it. However, it will be a significant challenge if you attempt this dungeon under-levelled.
There are no downsides to attempting Volcanic Cave early as you will obtain powerful gear if you manage to complete it. However, it will be a significant challenge if you attempt this dungeon under-levelled.


In general, you will want at least {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|80}} and you should be able to complete {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} relatively easily before attempting this dungeon. Ideally, you will want sufficient {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat}} to survive the dungeon without resorting to manual eating.
In general, you will want at least {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|70}} so that you can equip the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Helmet|Ancient Armor}} and you should be able to complete {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} relatively easily before attempting this dungeon. Ideally, you will want sufficient {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat}} to survive the dungeon without resorting to manual eating, but if you take this route then see the last section for further recommendations on how to survive the dungeon the hard way.


=== Ancient Magicks ===
=== Ancient Magicks ===
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The boss of {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} uses the {{Icon|Melee}} style and so it is not recommended that you attempt to idle this dungeon with {{Skill|Ranged}} due to the [[Combat Triangle]] penalties. This guide assumes that you have {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}} equipped which greatly reduces the DR requirements.
The boss of {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} uses the {{Icon|Melee}} style and so it is not recommended that you attempt to idle this dungeon with {{Skill|Ranged}} due to the [[Combat Triangle]] penalties. This guide assumes that you have {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}} equipped which greatly reduces the DR requirements.


The calculations in this guide are against the {{Icon|Hardcore}}/{{Icon|Adventure}} modes, and so should work for most play styles, however if you have lower HP or DR than the guide recommends then check out [https://zxv975.github.io/CanIIdle/ Can I Idle] or the [[Combat Simulator]] to see if you build will survive.
The calculations in this guide assume {{Icon|Hardcore}}/{{Icon|Adventure}} modes, and so should work for most play styles, however if you have lower HP or DR than the guide recommends then check out [https://zxv975.github.io/CanIIdle/ Can I Idle] or the [[Combat Simulator]] to see if you build will survive.


===Melee===
===Melee===
{{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} is often idled with {{Icon|Melee}} because the {{ItemIcon|Dragon Helmet|dragon}} armor set can be obtained with {{SkillReq|Smithing|99}}, further, the armour can be [[Upgrading Items|upgraded]] to provide 30% DR.
{{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} is often idled with {{Icon|Melee}} because the {{ItemIcon|Dragon Helmet|dragon}} armor set can be obtained with {{SkillReq|Smithing|99}}, further, the armour can be [[Upgrading Items|upgraded]] to provide 30% DR.


This {{Icon|Melee}} build requires {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=820|type=skill}} to idle the dungeon. However, this should be seen as a minimum DR + HP, as any less will be below the max hit of {{Icon|Malcs, the Guardian of Melvor|type=monster|Malcs}}.The {{ItemIcon|Sandstorm Ring}} can be omitted, but at the expense of clear time.
This {{Icon|Melee}} build requires {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=820|type=skill}} to idle the dungeon. However, this should be seen as a minimum DR/HP, and any less will push you below the max hit of {{Icon|Malcs, the Guardian of Melvor|type=monster|Malcs}}. The {{ItemIcon|Sandstorm Ring}} can be omitted, but at the expense of clear time.
 
Lower tiers of armor may be used if HP or DR is increased through other sources such as {{Skill|Agility}}, {{Skill|Summoning}}, or more {{Skill|Hitpoints}} levels, etc.


{{Equipment/Recommended
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|boots1=(G) Dragon Boots
|boots1=(G) Dragon Boots
}}
}}
Lower tiers of armor may be used if HP or DR is increased through other sources such as {{Skill|Agility}}, {{Skill|Summoning}}, or more {{Skill|Hitpoints}} levels, etc.


===Pre-Volcanic Magic===
===Pre-Volcanic Magic===


Idling with {{Skill|Magic}} is only recommended once you have stronger equipment because it will often end up with a slower clear time, or a more complicated setup.
Idling with {{Skill|Magic}} is recommended once you have stronger gear as it will ultimately speed up your clear times.


To idle the dungeon with the build below, you need {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=780|type=skill}} and {{Icon|Weakening III|type=curse}} active.
To idle the dungeon with the build below, you need {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=780|type=skill}} and {{Icon|Weakening III|type=curse}} active.
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{{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Robes|Fire Robes}} have the exact same stats as {{ItemIcon|Air Expert Wizard Robes|Air Robes}}. The secondary effect of robes (+20 minimum hit for matching spells) outweighs the damage increase of higher level spells, therefore, use the highest level spell and robe combination available to you. If available to you, use the {{ItemIcon|Ring of Spirit Power}} instead of the {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}}
{{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Robes|Fire Robes}} have the exact same stats as {{ItemIcon|Air Expert Wizard Robes|Air Robes}}. The secondary effect of robes (+20 minimum hit for matching spells) outweighs the damage increase of higher level spells. However, you should use the highest level spell and robe combination available to you. For example, if available, use the {{ItemIcon|Ring of Spirit Power}} instead of the {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}} for more damage/second.


{{Equipment/Recommended
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* {{Skill|Prayer}}
* {{Skill|Prayer}}
* {{Skill|Agility}}
* {{Skill|Agility}}
* Or, if you {{SkillReq|Magic|93}} or higher
* Increase {{Skill|Magic}}, for example at {{SkillReq|Magic|93}}
 
For a magic build {{MonsterIcon|Prat, the Protector of Secrets}} will be the biggest hitter, and with this build it will be very close to your Auto-Eat threshhold, so if you need to deviate, then check your setup with the [[Combat Simulator]].


For example:
For a magic build {{MonsterIcon|Prat, the Protector of Secrets}} will be the biggest hitter, and with this build it will be very close to your Auto-Eat threshold, so if you need to deviate, then check your setup with the [[Combat Simulator]].
* At {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=880|HP}} you will need to equip the {{Icon|Stone Skin|type=prayer}} prayer to provide extra DR.
* At {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=910|HP}} you can farm the dungeon with 33% DR and without the prayer or potions.


Once you have sufficient accuracy rating, the {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}} cam be swapped out for a ranged or melee shield with more DR such as {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Shield}} to lower other HP/DR requirements.  
Using this build you may need extra DR:
* At {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=910|HP}} and with 33% DR, you can farm the dungeon without without extra DR.
* At {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=880|HP}} you can equip the {{Icon|Stone Skin|type=prayer}} prayer to provide extra DR.
* Below {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=880|HP}} it is not recommended that you attempt to idle this dungeon.  


{{Equipment/Recommended
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|boots1=Ancient Wizard Boots
|boots1=Ancient Wizard Boots
}}
}}
In addition equip:
* {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} and {{Icon|Surge II|type=aurora}}
* Optionally, equip {{ItemIcon|Yak}} and {{ItemIcon|Dragon}} to not take any damage from burning (if you have enough marks)
Once you have sufficient accuracy rating, the {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}} cam be swapped out for a ranged or melee shield with more DR such as {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Shield}} to lower other HP/DR requirements.


For this build, food usage is {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=200000|type=skill|HP}} to {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=250000|type=skill|HP}} per hour.
For this build, food usage is {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=200000|type=skill|HP}} to {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=250000|type=skill|HP}} per hour.
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This table uses data obtained from the [[Combat Simulator]], and was adjusted by the time it takes to produce the required consumables with some assumptions made about the exact bonuses available for each skill. Use a copy of this spreadsheet to compare with your builds ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JAuROH4I_dNph9VwBXx7ffoGnWcoHlbsW0doWMBIPU0/edit?usp=sharing link]).
This table uses data obtained from the [[Combat Simulator]], and was adjusted by the time it takes to produce the required consumables with some assumptions made about the exact bonuses available for each skill. Use a copy of this spreadsheet to compare with your builds ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JAuROH4I_dNph9VwBXx7ffoGnWcoHlbsW0doWMBIPU0/edit?usp=sharing link]).


===Gear Options===
==Gear Options==


This section gives some alternative gear suggestions based on the equipment available while idling the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}}.
This section gives some alternative gear suggestions, in descending order of preference, based on the equipment available while idling the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}}.


=====Gloves=====
===Gloves===


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* Get the {{ItemIcon|Paladin Gloves|Gloves}} from the {{Icon|Paladin|type=monster}}
* Get the {{ItemIcon|Paladin Gloves|Gloves}} from the {{Icon|Paladin|type=monster}}


=====Cape=====
===Cape===
 
In order of preference:


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| {{ItemIcon|Obsidian Cape}}
| {{ItemIcon|Obsidian Cape}}
| Spend less food
| Reduce food/hour
| No DR increase
| No DR increase
|}
|}


=====Boots=====
===Ring===
 
It is not recommended that DR is dropped, but at a pinch:
 
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Item
! DR%
! Requirements
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Boots}}
| 6%
| {{SkillReq|Defence|60}}
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Rune Boots}}
| 5%
| {{SkillReq|Defence|40}}
|}
 
=====Ring=====


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|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sandstorm Ring}}
| {{ItemIcon|Sandstorm Ring}}
| Solid DPS increase for Melee, falls off in power if using enough buffs from other skills.
| Solid DPS increase for Melee, but can increase clear time for stronger builds.
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Silver Diamond Ring}}
| {{ItemIcon|Silver Diamond Ring}}
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|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ring of Blade Echoes}}
| {{ItemIcon|Ring of Blade Echoes}}
| Powerful melee dps increase, costs more prayer/potions per hit.
| Powerful melee DPS increase, costs more prayer/potions per hit.
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ring of Spirit Power}}
| {{ItemIcon|Ring of Spirit Power}}
| Powerful magic dps increase, does not affect Ancient Magicks.
| Powerful magic DPS increase, does not affect Ancient Magicks.
|}
|}


=== TL/DR ===
==Manual eating==
In summary, the suggested order of equipment is:
The gear needed for a manual run through the dungeon is significantly lower than needed for idling. However, it also depends on how well you time your eating as this will interrupt your attack and lengthen the combat time.
 
In general, if you are considering a manual run it is recommended that:
* You have {{SkillReq|Defence|70}} so that you can equip the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Helmet|Ancient armor}} as soon as it becomes available.
* You have the highest {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat}} tier possible to avoid accidental deaths
* You use a {{Skill|Melee}} build with a fast weapon, such as {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}, so that you can recover quickly after eating.
* You start with the highest DR and HP so that you have an easier time.
 
For example, in theory, this build could work with a hard cap of 40 for all skills (i.e. {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|40}}):
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Melee
|showDR=true
|helm1=(G) Adamant Helmet
|neck1=Silver Topaz Necklace
|cape1=Knight's Cape
|body1=(G) Adamant Platebody
|legs1=(G) Adamant Platelegs
|weapon1=Adamant Sword
|shield1=(G) Adamant Shield
|gloves1=Adamant Gloves
|ring1=Silver Diamond Ring
|boots1=(G) Adamant Boots
}}
 
In addition:
* Optionally, equip {{Icon|Ultimate Strength|type=prayer}} and {{Icon|Safeguard|type=prayer}}
* Optionally, equip {{ItemIcon|Wolf}} and {{ItemIcon|Yak}}
 
However, any improvements on this equipment set would be highly recommended as clearing the dungeon with this build would take around {{time|780}}.
 
== TL/DR ==
In summary, the suggested order for idling is:
# Obtain the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} and the {{ItemIcon|Sandstorm Ring}}
# Obtain the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} and the {{ItemIcon|Sandstorm Ring}}
# Perform 100 {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} clears as Melee to unclock {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}}
# Perform 100 {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} clears as Melee to unclock {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}}
# Do the remainder of {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} clears with {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} with the Surge aurora.
# Do the remainder of {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} clears with {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} with the Surge aurora.


Manual eating has a significantly lower requirement, but requires skill to not die.


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