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===Why clear Dragons Den?===
===Why Clear Dragons Den?===
{{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} is usually cleared for the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Crossbow}}, {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces}}, and {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} because they are wanted for the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Air God Dungeon/Guide|Air]] and {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Water God Dungeon/Guide|Water]] God Dungeons.  
{{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} is usually cleared for the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Crossbow}}, {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces}}, and {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} because they are wanted for the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Air God Dungeon/Guide|Air]] and {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Water God Dungeon/Guide|Water]] God Dungeons. The {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} can be upgraded into the {{ItemIcon|Scaled Shield}}, a bis ranged shield for a very long time.


Other parts of the {{ItemIcon|Ancient D-hide Body|Ancient}} set are of little importance because you will use the {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Helmet|notext=true}} [[Aeris God Armour]] for the {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon}}. Keep them only if you didn't already get your {{Skill|Ranged}} to level 85.
Other parts of the {{ItemIcon|Ancient D-hide Body|Ancient}} set are of little importance because you will use the {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Helmet|notext=true}} [[Aeris God Armour]] for the {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon}}. Keep them only if you didn't already get your {{Skill|Ranged}} to level 85.
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The ring slot in the given builds is free. It is suggested to use {{ItemIcon|Ring of Wealth}} if you have it or {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}} otherwise.
The ring slot in the given builds is free. It is suggested to use {{ItemIcon|Ring of Wealth}} if you have it or {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}} otherwise.
According to the [https://github.com/hm0809/MelvorProbDist/blob/main/main.py simulation] - it takes, on average, 506 Elder Chest opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}}. It takes 657 opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} with a 75% probability and 1165 opens to obtain all items with a 95% probability.




====Basic Magic====
====Basic Magic====


Below is a basic build that needs {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|90}} to create, {{SkillReq|Magic|78}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=830|type=skill|HP}} to idle.
Below is a basic build that needs {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|90}} to create, {{SkillReq|Magic|78}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=870|type=skill|HP}} to idle.


The spell of choice is {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with combination runes.
The spell of choice is {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with combination runes.
{| class="wikitable"
{{Equipment/Recommended
|-
|style=Magic
! Item
|showDR=true
! Slot
|helm1=Fire Expert Wizard Hat
! DR%
|neck1=Amulet of Magic
|-
|body1=Fire Expert Wizard Robes
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Hat}}
|legs1=Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms
| Head
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful)
| 5%
|shield1=Miolite Shield
|-
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Robes}}
|boots1=Fire Expert Wizard Boots
| Body
}}
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms}}
| Leggings
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Boots}}
| Boots
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Paladin Gloves}}
| Hands
| 4%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)}}
| Weapon
| 0%
|-
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Total
| 24%
|}


====Melee====
====Melee====


The following build needs {{SkillReq|Smithing|99}} to create, {{SkillReq|Attack|70}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=780|type=skill|HP}} to idle.
The following build needs {{SkillReq|Smithing|99}} to create, {{SkillReq|Attack|70}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=780|type=skill|HP}} to idle.
 
{{Equipment/Recommended
{| class="wikitable"
|style=Melee
|-
|showDR=true
! Item
|helm1=(G) Dragon Helmet
! Slot
|neck1=!{{ItemIcon|Amulet of Calculated Promotion|Promotion}} or {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Glory|Glory}}
! DR%
|body1=(G) Dragon Platebody
|-
|legs1=(G) Dragon Platelegs
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Helmet}}
|weapon1=!{{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} or {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| Head
|shield1=(G) Dragon Shield
| 6%
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves
|-
|boots1=(G) Dragon Boots
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platebody}}
}}
| Body
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platelegs}}
| Leggings
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Boots}}
| Boots
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Shield}}
| Off-hand
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Paladin Gloves}}
| Hands
| 4%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Calculated Promotion|Promotion}} or {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Glory|Glory}}
| Neck
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} or {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| Weapon
| 0%
|-
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Total
| 34%
|}


====Advanced Magic====
====Advanced Magic====
For comparison, here's the magic build that takes less time to acquire than the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} and needs {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=860|type=skill|HP}} to idle.
For comparison, here's the magic build that takes less time to acquire than the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} and needs {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=860|type=skill|HP}} to idle.
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Magic
|showDR=true
|helm1=Fire Expert Wizard Hat
|neck1=Elite Amulet of Defence
|cape1=Skull Cape
|body1=Fire Expert Wizard Robes
|legs1=Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful)
|shield1=Book of Eli
|gloves1=Elementalist Gloves
|boots1=Fire Expert Wizard Boots
}}


{| class="wikitable"
===Adjusted Clear Time===
|-
! Item
! Slot
! DR%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Hat}}
| Head
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Robes}}
| Body
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms}}
| Leggings
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Boots}}
| Boots
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)}}
| Weapon
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Enchanted Cape}}
| Cape
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Defence}}
| Neck
| 2%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli}}
| Off-hand
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Elementalist Gloves}}
| Hands
| 0%
|-
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Total
| 22%
|}
 
===Adjusted clear time===
Adjusted clear time is the time it takes to prepare all needed food and runes plus the time of the clear itself.
Adjusted clear time is the time it takes to prepare all needed food and runes plus the time of the clear itself.
{| class="wikitable"  
{| class="wikitable"  
! Build
! Build
! Seconds per clear
! Adjusted clears per hour
|-
|-
| Basic Magic
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 1094
| 3.7
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| Basic Magic
| 1091
| 4.1
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 970
| 4.1
|-
|-
| Advanced Magic
| Advanced Magic
| 839
| 5.8
|}
|}


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The mining time is the one with the {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Pickaxe}} upgrade - 1.3 seconds. The number of needed essence considers all runes used in crafting: {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|Essence}}, {{ItemIcon|Air Rune|Air}}, {{ItemIcon|Fire Rune|Fire}}, {{ItemIcon|Smoke Rune|Smoke}} and {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes.
The mining time is the one with the {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Pickaxe}} upgrade - 1.3 seconds. The number of needed essence considers all runes used in crafting: {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|Essence}}, {{ItemIcon|Air Rune|Air}}, {{ItemIcon|Fire Rune|Fire}}, {{ItemIcon|Smoke Rune|Smoke}} and {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes.


<math>T_m = N * (7 * (1 + 2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + 1 / 16) * 1.3 = N / 16 * (8.75 + 1) * 1.3 = N * 12.675 / 16</math>
<math>T_m = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + 1 / 16 + 7 / 16) * 1.3 = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) + 1) / 16 * 1.3 + 7 / 16 * 1.3</math>


For <math>T_r</math> compared to <math>T_m</math>, the only difference is that the number of mined essence is multiplied by 2 instead of 1.3.
For <math>T_r</math> compared to <math>T_m</math>, the difference is that we don't account for one rune essence in the {{ItemIcon|Smoke Rune}} because we don't need to runecraft it separately unlike all other parts of the formula.


<math>T_r = N * 9.75 * 2 / 16 = N * 9.75 / 8</math>
<math>T_r = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) + 1) / 16 * 2</math>


You can check out the intermediate steps with the following Google Sheet ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wpcsRfkIDdK5nDsD_MuKgsLrXirqjrzqCHL3SA8Z7s4/edit#gid=0 link]).
You can check out the intermediate steps with the following Google Sheet ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wkic1HnSjkvFuq78UhuIe4BUTxc1EcedhRIcKsXRq0I/edit#gid=0 link]).
 
The {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)|magic}} inputs are 1060 crabs, 1205 ancient runes, and 16 dungeons per hour.<br>
The adjusted clear time is 609 seconds per clear.
 
 
The {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|rapier}} inputs are 655 crabs and 9.8 dungeons per hour.<br>
The adjusted clear time is 462 seconds per clear.
 
 
The {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} inputs are 626 crabs and 10.7 dungeons per hour.<br>
The adjusted clear time is 404 seconds per clear.
 
The Advanced Magic build inputs are 1000 crabs, 1170 ancient runes, and 20 dungeons per hour.<br>
The adjusted clear time is 463 seconds per clear.
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It is assumed that the Advanced Magic build would equal the Ancient Claw build if resource preservation were to be accounted for.
Advanced Magic is the clear leader, therefore it is recommended to farm the Dragons Den dungeon with the Advanced Magic build.
 
Therefore, both Advanced Magic and Ancient Claw builds are recommended depending on what you want to train.


====Food expenditure====
====Food Expenditure====
The bulk of time is spent on preparing food, so it's heavily recommended to level your food-producing methods when possible. As an example, with some upgrades ({{ItemIcon|Fishing Skillcape}}, {{ItemIcon|Cooking Skillcape}}, 99 mastery, top fishing rod, {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Fishing}}), the fishing and cooking times are the following:  
The bulk of time is spent on preparing food, so it's heavily recommended to level your food-producing methods when possible. As an example, with some upgrades ({{ItemIcon|Fishing Skillcape}}, {{ItemIcon|Cooking Skillcape}}, 99 mastery, top fishing rod, {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Fishing}}), the fishing and cooking times are the following:  
{| class="wikitable"  
{| class="wikitable"  
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| 9.35
| 9.35
| 580
| 580
| 51.24
| 51.2
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Crab}}
| {{ItemIcon|Crab}}
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