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===TL;DR===
Farm the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw Fragment|Ancient Claw Fragments}} with the {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell|Slicing Winds}} build right after you finish {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave|qty=100|Volcanic Caves}}.
===Introduction===
===Introduction===
TL;DR - Jump to the Conclusion part if you just want the result.
{{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain.
{{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain.


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To answer these questions, we will consider the following builds:
To answer these questions, we will consider the following builds:
* Starter {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Hat|runecrafting}} magic,
* {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell|Surge}} magic,
* {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} melee,
* {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|Rapier}} melee,
* Ancient Magick,  
* {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} magic,  
* Ancient Magick in {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet|Glacia}}.
* {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet|Glacia}} magic.


These builds were chosen to show the changes that the various drops bring into farming the Pegasus. The ranged builds were not considered because the {{Icon|Pegasus|type=monster}} is {{Icon|Melee}} and has the highest evasion against {{Skill|Ranged}} in addition to the [[Combat Triangle]].
These builds were chosen to show the changes that the various drops bring into farming the Pegasus. The ranged builds were not considered because the {{Icon|Pegasus|type=monster}} is {{Icon|Melee}} and has the highest evasion against {{Skill|Ranged}} in addition to the [[Combat Triangle]].
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===Builds===
===Builds===
====Starter magic====
 
The simulations were done for {{Icon|Hardcore}} with all skills on level 75.
 
All intermediate steps can be found in this spreadsheet ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GTuVLA0lWguB-72hiLNLmwAxNLNY0gSqkPGHpGmydHk/edit?usp=sharing link]).
 
===={{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell|Surge}} magic====


{| class="wikitable"  
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! DR
! DR
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Hat}}
| {{ItemIcon|Slayer Wizard Hat (Strong)}}
| 5%
| 0%
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Robes}}
| {{ItemIcon|Slayer Wizard Robes (Strong)}}
| 5%
| 0%
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms}}
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms}}
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|-
|-
| Total
| Total
| 26%
| 16%
|}
|}


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The grind time with this build is 122 hour.<br>
{{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} is used with Combination Runes. All skills are at level 75.
However, pay attention that it would be more than 283 hours without the Slayer gear.
 
The [[Combat Simulator|simulation]] results are:
* 1358 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient runes}} spent,
* 151.9 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 23 Pegasi per hour.


<math>T_c = 151.9 * 18.875 = 2867</math>
===={{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|Rapier}} melee====
 
<math>T_m = (N * 7 * (1 + 2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + N / 16) * 1.3 = N / 16 * (8.75 + 1) * 1.3 = N * 12.675 / 16</math>
 
<math>T_r = N * 9.75 * 2 / 16 = N * 9.75 / 8</math>
 
<math>N = 1358</math>
 
<math>T_m = 1358 * 12.675 / 16 = 1076</math>
 
<math>T_r = 1358 * 9.75 / 8 = 1655</math>
 
The adjusted time <math>A_{start} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 2867 + 1076 + 1655) / 23 = 400</math>
 
In other words, the time that is required to get all resources for killing one Pegasus and to actually kill it is 400 seconds.
 
The overall time to get all resources and kill all Pegasi is <math>400 * 3333 / 3600 = 371 \text{ hours}.</math>
 
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The overall time to get all resources and kill all Pegasi is 371 hours.
 
====Sunset Rapier melee====


{| class="wikitable"  
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! DR
! DR
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Helmet}}
| {{ItemIcon|Slayer Helmet (Strong)}}
| 6%
| 0%
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platebody}}
| {{ItemIcon|Slayer Platebody (Strong)}}
| 6%
| 0%
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platelegs}}
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platelegs}}
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|-
|-
| Total
| Total
| 34%
| 22%
|}
|}
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All skills are at level 75.
The simulation results are:
* 33.2 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 26.57 Pegasi per hour.
<math>T_c = 33.2 * 18.875 = 626.7</math>
The adjusted time <math>A_{ship} = (3600 + 626.7) / 26.57 = 159.08</math>
The overall time is <math>159.08 * 3333 / 3600 = 148 \text{ hours}.</math>
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The overall grind time with this build is 148 hours.
The grind time with this build is 67 hours.<br>
If you don't use the Slayer gear, the grind time with this build will be 142 hours.


====Ancient Magick====
===={{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} magic====


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| 2%
| 2%
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Enchanted Cape}}
| {{ItemIcon|Skull Cape}}
| 0%
| 3%
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Magic}}
| {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Magic}}
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| 24%
| 24%
|}
|}
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All skills are at level 75 except {{SkillReq|Magic|91}}. With the following setup, you should have exactly 20k accuracy on {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}}, they cannot miss now.
The simulation results with {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli|Eli}} are:
* 4905 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient runes}} spent,
* 107.9 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 196.2 Pegasi per hour.
<math>T_c = 107.9 * 18.875 = 2037</math>
<math>T_m = (N * 20 + N) / 16 * 1.3 = N * 21 / 16 * 1.3 = N * 27.3 / 16</math>
<math>T_r = N * 21 * 2 / 16 = N * 21 / 8</math>


<math>N = 4905</math>
Your first goal with this build is to reach 20k accuracy for {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}}, which means the spell won't miss at all. Therefore, while the build only requires {{SkillReq|Magic|72}} at minimum, you will need at most level {{SkillReq|Magic|93}} or multiple Accuracy bonuses from various other skills to achieve 20k Accuracy Rating, including:
* {{ItemIcon|Magic Assistance Potion|Magic Assistance Potions}}
* {{Skill|Astrology}}
* {{Skill|Prayer}}
* {{Skill|Agility}}


<math>T_m = 4905 * 27.3 / 16 = 8370</math>
{{Icon|Surge I|type=aurora}} or {{Icon|Surge II|type=aurora}} can be used if you can afford them.


<math>T_r = 4905 * 21 / 8 = 12876</math>
Worth noting that using a {{ItemIcon|Mystic Air Staff}} will ''drastically'' reduce the amount of runes spent - especially while using Surge Auroras. The staff will be slower, and will require more


The adjusted time <math>A_{volcano} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 2037 + 8370 + 12876) / 196.2 = 137</math>
Warning: Swapping {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}} to {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli}} will not positively affect your kill times that much, while also forcing you to spend more runes/time Runecrafting.  


The overall time is <math>137 * 3333 / 3600 = 127 \text{ hours}.</math>
The grind time with this build is 48 hours. The slayer gear doesn't add to the clear speed in this case.


 
===={{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet|Glacia}} magic====
 
If you swap {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}} to {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli}}, it will only increase the clear time because your melee defence would plummet, resulting in many more Whales eaten.
 
The simulation results with {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli|Eli}} are:
* 4905 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient runes}} spent,
* 172.4 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 196.2 Pegasi per hour.
 
<math>T_c = 172.4 * 18.875 = 3254</math>
 
<math>T_m = 8370</math>. <math>T_r = 12876</math>
 
The adjusted time <math>A_{eli} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 3254 + 8370 + 12876) / 196.2 = 143.2</math>
 
The overall time is <math>143.2 * 3333 / 3600 = 133 \text{ hours}.</math>
|title=Details|color=default}}
 
The overall grind time with this build is 127 hours.
 
 
Overall, you want to put as much DR and Melee defence as possible when maintaining the 20k accuracy.
 
For instance, if you have {{SkillReq|Magic|93}} with the build above, you can swap {{ItemIcon|Enchanted Cape}} with {{ItemIcon|Fire Cape}} and reduce the food consumption even further.
 
The rune mining and crafting take the bulk of the time, so you might want to use all preservation and doubling bonuses that you have.
 
====Ancient Magick in Glacia====


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| 48%
| 48%
|}
|}
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The levels are the same as in the Volcanic build. Due to Ancient Magic not benefiting from gear, the build was aimed to cram as much DR and melee evasion as possible. If you have {{SkillReq|Magic|95}}, you should be able to swap for {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Defence}} while still having the required 20k accuracy.
{{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} are used.
The simulation results are:
* 4905 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient runes}} spent,
* 47.7 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 196.2 Pegasi per hour.
As the number of runes is the same, <math>T_m = 8370.</math> <math>T_r = 12876.</math>
<math>T_c = 47.7 * 18.875 = 900.3</math>
The adjusted time <math>A_{glacia} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 900.3 + 8370 + 12876) / 196.2 = 131.2</math>


The overall time is <math>131.2 * 3333 / 3600 = 121.5 \text{ hours}.</math>
The grind time with this build is 44 hours.
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The overall grind time with this build is 121.5 hours.
However, this build implies that you go through the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}} with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}, which is a sizeable loss of DPS that will cost you more than 4 hours of the difference between this build and the Slicing Winds build.


==Analysis==
==Analysis==
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====Full-Sunset Volcano vs Full-Claw Volcano====
====Full-Sunset Volcano vs Full-Claw Volcano====
Let's consider the Sunset Rapier and Glacia builds.
Let's consider the builds Rapier and Slicing Winds.


The difference between their timings of completing the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} is 27 hours.
The difference between their timings of completing the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} is 19 hours.


The Volcano grind of the full {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set is longer with the with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} than it is with the Claw.
The Volcano grind of the full {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set is longer with the with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} than it is with the Claw.


The question is then if the difference between the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|rapier}} and the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} in the Volcanic grind is bigger than 27 hours.  
The question is then if the difference between the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|rapier}} and the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} in the Volcanic grind is bigger than 19 hours.  


We know the length of "Raper > Claw" and "Volcano > Claw" through the info of post-Ship and post-Glacia builds, but we need the data on "Rapier > Volcano" and "Claw > Volcano".
We know the length of "Rapier > Claw" and "Volcano > Claw", but we need the data on "Rapier > Volcano" and "Claw > Volcano".


We take this data from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice]].
We take this data from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice]].
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|-
|-
! Item
! Item
! Adjusted clear time (s)
! Adjusted clears per hour
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 1892
| 5.204
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 1717
| 5.412
|}
|}


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|-
|-
! Item
! Item
! Adjusted clear time (clears/h)
! Adjusted clears per hour
! 564 clears (h)
! 564 clears (h)
! 832 clears (h)
! 832 clears (h)
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|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 1.9027
| 5.204
| 296.4
| 108.4
| 437
| 160
| 710
| 259.4
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 2.0967
| 5.412
| 267
| 104.2
| 397
| 153.7
| 644
| 249.5
|-
|-
| Difference (h)
| Difference (h)
|  
|  
| 29
| 4.2
| 40
| 6.3
| 66
| 10.1
|}
|}


As you see from the Difference row, even the 50% chance still gives the 4-hour advantage if you get the Claw before the Volcanic Cave.
The biggest difference is 10 hours. It means that Rapier>Volcano>Claw is faster than Rapier>Claw>Volcano by at least 9 hours.
 
Therefore, if you farm the Volcanic Cave completely with the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} and then farm the Claw with Glacia, the sum of the Volcanic and Claw farm will be larger than if you were to farm the Claw with the Rapier and then doing the Volcanic Cave. And we didn't even consider the time loss of doing the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}} with the Rapier instead of the Claw.


However, what if we were to use the [[Ancient Magicks]] as soon as we unlock it?
However, what if we were to use the [[Ancient Magicks]] as soon as we unlock it?


====Sunset/Ancient Volcano vs Claw/Ancient Volcano====
====Sunset/Ancient Volcano vs Claw/Ancient Volcano====
It is possible to clear the Volcano using the Ancient Magicks with the build from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic]]. Pay attention that you need 37% DR with {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=920|HP}} to idle it. That amount of DR is reached either through the {{Icon|Stone Skin|type=prayer}} prayer or through the {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion II|DR potion II}}.
It is possible to clear the Volcano using the Ancient Magicks with the build from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic]]. Pay attention that you need 37% DR with {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=920|HP}} to idle it. That amount of DR is reached either through the {{Icon|Stone Skin|type=prayer}} prayer or through the {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion II|DR potion II}}. Without prayer or potions, you need {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=940|HP}}.


If we consider that we clear only 100 Volcanoes as a melee build and the rest as the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic|100-Volcanoes]] Magic build, then we compare the two sequences:
If we consider that we clear only 100 Volcanoes as a melee build and the rest as the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic|100-Volcanoes]] Magic build, then we compare the two sequences:
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|-
! Item
! Item
! Adjusted clear time (clears/h)
! Adjusted clears per hour
! 100 clears (h)
! 100 clears (h)
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 1.9027
| 5.204
| 52.56
| 52.04
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 2.0967
| 5.412
| 47.69
| 54.12
|-
|-
| Difference (h)
| scope="row" colspan="2" | Difference (h)
|  
| 2.08
| 4.87
|}
|}


In other words, the advantage of farming 100 Volcanic Caves with the Claw when compared to the Sunset Rapier is less than 5 hours.
In other words, the advantage of farming 100 {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave|Volcanic Caves}} with the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} when compared to the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} is 2 hours.


If we consider the rearranged sum of what we compare
Now we consider the rearranged sum of what we compare:


* Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
* Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
* Claw farm with Ancient Magicks + 100 Rapier Volcanoes.
* Claw farm with Slicing Winds + 100 Rapier Volcanoes.


and then subtract the second row from the first one, then we would get
We subtract the second row from the first one and get


<math>27 - 4.87 = 22.13</math>
<math>19 - 2.08 = 16.92</math>


In other words the sequence where we farm the Claw after the Volcano is faster than the sequence of farming the claw with Rapier by 22 hours.
In other words the sequence where we farm the Claw after the Volcano is faster than the sequence of farming the claw with Rapier by 17 hours.


== Conclusion ==
==Conclusion==
Check in the [[Combat Simulator]] how to get 20k accuracy for {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}}.<br>
Farm the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} with the {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} build right after you finish {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave|qty=100|Volcanic Caves}}. Don't forget to enable the Surge aurora.
Clear the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} 100 times with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}, then farm the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} with Ancient Magicks, and do the rest of the Volcanic clears either with the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic|Ancient Magicks build]] or with the Claw melee.


If you cannot use this build for some reason, then use the Rapier melee build with Slayer gear.


If you can't get 20k accuracy for {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} in a reasonable timeframe, then it might be a good idea to farm the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} with the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} first and then clear the Volcano with the Claw.
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