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===Why Clear Dragons Den?===
=Why Clear Dragons Den?=
{{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} is usually cleared for the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Crossbow}}, {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces}}, and {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} because they are wanted for the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Air God Dungeon/Guide|Air]] and {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Water God Dungeon/Guide|Water]] God Dungeons. The {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} can be upgraded into the {{ItemIcon|Scaled Shield}}, a bis ranged shield for a very long time.
{{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} is usually cleared for the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Crossbow}}, {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces}}, and {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} because they are wanted for the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Air God Dungeon/Guide|Air]] and {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Water God Dungeon/Guide|Water]] God Dungeons. The {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} can be upgraded into the {{ItemIcon|Scaled Shield}}, a bis ranged shield for a very long time.


Other parts of the {{ItemIcon|Ancient D-hide Body|Ancient}} set are of little importance because you will use the {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Helmet|notext=true}} [[Aeris God Armour]] for the {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon}}. Keep them only if you didn't already get your {{Skill|Ranged}} to level 85.
Other parts of the {{ItemIcon|Ancient D-hide Body|Ancient}} set are of little importance because you will use the {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Helmet|notext=true}} [[Aeris God Armour]] for the {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon}}. Keep them only if you didn't already get your {{Skill|Ranged}} to level 85.


===Gear to idle===
=Standard Guide=


Because all enemies in {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} are {{Icon|Melee}}, it is advised to use a {{Skill|Magic}} or {{Icon|Melee}} build due to the [[Combat Triangle]].
Because all enemies in {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} are {{Icon|Melee}}, it is advised to use a {{Skill|Magic}} or {{Icon|Melee}} build due to the [[Combat Triangle]].
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This guide assumes that you have {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}}. {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} were used as a food of choice to reflect the approximate cooking level at the time of clearing the dungeon.
This guide assumes that you have {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}}. {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} were used as a food of choice to reflect the approximate cooking level at the time of clearing the dungeon.


The simulations are run on a character with lvl 80 in all combat skills except {{Skill|Hitpoints}}.
All the simulations for this guide were done without any [[Pets]], {{Skill|Astrology}} or [[Potions]]. <br>
If you have {{PetIcon|Finn}} you can subtract 1 {{Skill|Hitpoints|notext=true}} Level from the requirements. <br>
If you have {{PetIcon|Leonardo}} you can subtract 2 {{Skill|Hitpoints|notext=true}} Level from the requirements.


Due to the wide range of cases, it is recommended to use the [[Combat Simulator]] to compare the options tailored for your situation.
According to the [https://github.com/hm0809/MelvorProbDist/blob/main/main.py simulation] - it takes, on average, 506 Elder Chest opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}}. It takes 657 opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} with a 75% probability and 1165 opens to obtain all items with a 95% probability.


The ring slot in the given builds is free. It is suggested to use {{ItemIcon|Ring of Wealth}} if you have it or {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}} otherwise.


According to the [https://github.com/hm0809/MelvorProbDist/blob/main/main.py simulation] - it takes, on average, 506 Elder Chest opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}}. It takes 657 opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} with a 75% probability and 1165 opens to obtain all items with a 95% probability.
==Basic Magic==
 
This part of the guide will need either {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|73}} '''or''' {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|66}} and {{SkillReq|Agility|50}} to fully idle.
 
This build has around 17 clears per hour.




====Basic Magic====
===Gear===


Below is a basic build that needs {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|90}} to create, {{SkillReq|Magic|78}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=870|type=skill|HP}} to idle.
Spell: {{Icon|Earth Surge|type=spell}} with combination runes. <br>
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Lore}} & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Might}}  


The spell of choice is {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with combination runes. <br>
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Lore}}  & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Mastery}}
{{Equipment/Recommended
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Magic
|style = Magic
|showDR=true
|helm1 = Earth Adept Wizard Hat
|helm1=Fire Expert Wizard Hat
|body1 = Earth Adept Wizard Robes
|neck1=Amulet of Magic
|legs1 = Earth Adept Wizard Bottoms
|body1=Fire Expert Wizard Robes
|boots1 = Earth Adept Wizard Boots
|legs1=Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful)
|cape1 = Skull Cape
|shield1=Miolite Shield
|neck1 = Elite Amulet of Magic
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|ring1=Silver Diamond Ring
|weapon1 = Magic Wand (Powerful)
|boots1=Fire Expert Wizard Boots
|shield1 = (G) Rune Shield
}}
}}


====Melee====
===Agility===
 
Only required if you don't have {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|73}}.
 
{{AgilityCourseTable
|Cargo Net
|Rope Jump
|Pipe Climb
|Coal Stones
|Cliff Balance
|Rocky Waters
|showtotals = false
|showcosts = false
|showrequirements = false
}}
 
===[[Combat Simulator]] Export===
 
[https://pastebin.com/V1Yu2yQP Combat Simulator Export]
 
 
==Melee==
 
This part of the guide will need {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|76}} and {{SkillReq|Agility|70}} to fully idle. <br>
You can also upgrade the [[Adamant Equipment]] to [[Rune Equipment]] which will lower the requirements to {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|73}} and {{SkillReq|Agility|50}} to fully idle.
 
This build has around 12-13 clears per hour.
 
 
===Gear===


The following build needs {{SkillReq|Attack|70}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=800|type=skill|HP}} to idle. <br>
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Incredible Reflexes}} & {{PrayerIcon|Chivalry}}  
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Incredible Reflexes}} & {{PrayerIcon|Chivalry}}  
{{Equipment/Recommended
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Melee
|style = Melee
|showDR=true
|helm1 = (G) Adamant Helmet
|helm1=(G) Rune Helmet
|body1 = (G) Adamant Platebody
|neck1=Elite Amulet of Defence
|legs1 = (G) Adamant Platelegs
|body1=(G) Rune Platebody
|boots1 = (G) Adamant Boots
|legs1=(G) Rune Platelegs
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|ring1=Silver Diamond Ring
|cape1 = Obsidian Cape
|weapon1=!{{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} or {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
|neck1 = Elite Amulet of Defence
|shield1=(G) Rune Shield
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves
|weapon1 = !{{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} or {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
|boots1=(G) Dragon Boots
|shield1 = (G) Adamant Shield
}}
}}


====Advanced Magic====
===Agility===
For comparison, here's the magic build that takes less time to acquire than the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} and needs {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=800|type=skill|HP}} to idle. <br>
 
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Lore}}  & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Mastery}}  
{{AgilityCourseTable
|Cargo Net
|Rope Jump
|Pipe Climb
|Coal Stones
|Cliff Balance
|Rocky Waters
|Boulder Trap
|Raft Building
|showtotals = false
|showcosts = false
|showrequirements = false
}}
 
 
===[[Combat Simulator]] Export===
 
[https://pastebin.com/HwUM5H0Z Combat Simulator Export]
 
 
 
=Ancient Relics=
 
On top of no [[Pets]], {{Skill|Astrology}} or [[Potions]] this guide will also assume no [[Relics]].
 
Much like any other dungeon up to now, Manual Eating will be required.
 
==Magic==
This will require {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|60}} so the level 70 cap increase must be reached.
 
This Dungeon will take roughly 5.5 minutes to complete with the provided setup.  <br>
And will take roughly 140 {{ItemIcon|Lobster}} to complete.
 
===Gear===
 
Spell: {{Icon|Earth Wave|type=spell}} <br>
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Lore}}  & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Might}}  
 
{{Equipment/Recommended
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Magic
|style = Magic
|showDR=true
|helm1 = Earth Adept Wizard Hat
|helm1=Fire Expert Wizard Hat
|body1 = Earth Adept Wizard Robes
|neck1=Elite Amulet of Defence
|legs1 = Earth Adept Wizard Bottoms
|cape1=Skull Cape
|boots1 = Earth Adept Wizard Boots
|body1=Fire Expert Wizard Robes
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|legs1=Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms
|cape1 = Skull Cape
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful)
|neck1 = Amulet of Magic
|shield1=Book of Eli
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|gloves1=Elementalist Gloves
|weapon1 = Magic Wand (Powerful)
|ring1=Silver Diamond Ring
|shield1 = (G) Adamant Shield
|boots1=Fire Expert Wizard Boots
}}
}}


===Adjusted Clear Time===
===[[Combat Simulator]] Export===
Adjusted clear time is the time it takes to prepare all needed food and runes plus the time of the clear itself.
{| class="wikitable"
! Build
! Adjusted clears per hour
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 3.7
|-
| Basic Magic
| 4.1
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 4.1
|-
| Advanced Magic
| 5.8
|}


{{SpoilerBox|text=
[https://pastebin.com/eck15MXk Combat Simulator Export]
Adjusted clear time <math>A</math> is calculated by dividing the overall time <math>T_{all}</math> by the number of dungeons <math>D_h</math> cleared per one hour.


The overall time <math>T_{all}</math> is calculated by the sum of one hour plus the time required to produce the {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} <math>T_c</math>, mine essence <math>T_m</math>, and create runes <math>T_r</math>. All measured in seconds. The number of spent {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes is noted as <math>N</math>.


The {{ItemIcon|Crab}} total preparation time is 6.9 seconds per Crab.


The {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with the combination runes is used.


The approximate {{Icon|Adventure}} situation is taken for Runecrafting. In particular, {{ItemIcon|Mining Gloves}} and {{ItemIcon|Elemental Potion IV|Elemental Potion}} are not used. The Runecrafting 95% milestone of the mastery pool is active, and the runes have 99 mastery, meaning that 16 runes are produced per two seconds. No rune preservation or doubling.
==Melee==


The mining time is the one with the {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Pickaxe}} upgrade - 1.3 seconds. The number of needed essence considers all runes used in crafting: {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|Essence}}, {{ItemIcon|Air Rune|Air}}, {{ItemIcon|Fire Rune|Fire}}, {{ItemIcon|Smoke Rune|Smoke}} and {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes.
This Dungeon will take roughly 10 minutes to complete with the provided setup. 15 minutes if you use an {{ItemIcon|Ice Sword}}. <br>
And will take roughly 235-325 {{ItemIcon|Lobster}} to complete.


<math>T_m = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + 1 / 16 + 7 / 16) * 1.3 = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) + 1) / 16 * 1.3 + 7 / 16 * 1.3</math>
===Gear===


For <math>T_r</math> compared to <math>T_m</math>, the difference is that we don't account for one rune essence in the {{ItemIcon|Smoke Rune}} because we don't need to runecraft it separately unlike all other parts of the formula.
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Ultimate Strength}} & {{PrayerIcon|Incredible Reflexes}}


<math>T_r = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) + 1) / 16 * 2</math>
{{ItemIcon|Ice Sword}} can be used instead of {{ItemIcon|Rune Claw}}


You can check out the intermediate steps with the following Google Sheet ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wkic1HnSjkvFuq78UhuIe4BUTxc1EcedhRIcKsXRq0I/edit#gid=0 link]).
{{Equipment/Recommended
|title=Details|color=default}}
|style = Melee
|helm1 = (G) Adamant Helmet
|body1 = (G) Adamant Platebody
|legs1 = (G) Adamant Platelegs
|boots1 = (G) Adamant Boots
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|cape1 = Obsidian Cape
|neck1 = Amulet of Calculated Promotion
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|weapon1 = Rune Claw
|shield1 = (G) Adamant Shield
}}


Advanced Magic is the clear leader, therefore it is recommended to farm the Dragons Den dungeon with the Advanced Magic build.
===[[Combat Simulator]] Export===


====Food Expenditure====
[https://pastebin.com/dZYZLT0x Combat Simulator Export]
The bulk of time is spent on preparing food, so it's heavily recommended to level your food-producing methods when possible. As an example, with some upgrades ({{ItemIcon|Fishing Skillcape}}, {{ItemIcon|Cooking Skillcape}}, 99 mastery, top fishing rod, {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Fishing}}), the fishing and cooking times are the following:  
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Food
! Fishing time (s)
! Cooking time (s)
! HP
! HP per second
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)}}
| 1.97
| 9.35
| 580
| 51.2
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Crab}}
| 0.96
| 5.95
| 150
| 21.7
|}


In other words, if you prepare Whales instead of Crabs, you would more than double your speed of food preparation, which is a huge boost to the clear time.


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