Dark Waters/Guide
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T90 Farming
Following completion of Into the Mist, you now have access to
Dark Waters, the penultimate slayer area. These 3 mobs drop fragments for the T90 weapons, the highest level, and often most powerful, weapons in the game that are extremely helpful in completing the following slayer area, as well as the Impending Darkness Event. These are extremely long grinds, and require quite a bit of preparation. Each weapon requires 100 fragments, and the fragments have a 2% drop rate. That's 5,000 kills on average.
We recommend acquiring them while fighting each monster as a slayer task, this will require you to turn OFF auto-slayer, and will encourage semi-frequent check-ins. Doing these on task will increase your damage dealt to them from various buffs, namely Slayer Skillcape. This will make the order you obtain the final weapons in effectively random, but if you don't want to deal with the hassle of rerolling, or simply want to do them in a specific order, we recommend the following:
Shockwave - Made from
Shockwave Fragment, dropped by
Rokken
Ocean Song - Made from
Ocean Song Fragment, dropped by
Ku-tul
Tidal Edge - Made from
Tidal Edge Fragment, dropped by
Umbora
Additionally, you should also acquire the pet Otto whilst doing this grind, if you do not, continue farming whichever mob you kill the fastest on or off task until you get it.
Item fragments are very rare drops, (the average amount of kills required to obtain all of the drops with no doubling is 5000 per monster), and it should be noted that there is a Township Task that requires the player to Kill 5,000 Ku-tul, 5,000 Umbora, and 5,000 Rokken, therefore Item Doubling is not as important for this specific grind as it might otherwise be.
Additionally, there is another Township Task that requires 1 of each
Fragment and rewards 3 of each Fragment, to shorten the grind a little.
After completing the task, or if you simply want your first copies as soon as possible, you should attempt to sneak in as much item doubling into your gear as possible. Using the Combat Simulator to measure your Drops/hr with no deaths is highly recommended.
Order
The order you obtain these items in is not particularly important.
Using the weapons obtained from killing each monster makes sense, unfortunately, they have historically not always the best available options, however a balance patch in Melvor Idle 1.1 has changed the meta an amount, and this guide will strive to stay updated. For now, the only recommended order is to obtain Shockwave and use it to obtain
Ocean Song.
Again:
- Shockwave then
Ocean Song then
Tidal Edge
- Tidal Edge then
Shockwave then
Ocean Song
Between those two, the required time is roughly equal.
Many people combine the grinding of these weapons with the grind for the master slayer gear. An added benefit is the increased damage given by the Slayer Skillcape and buffs from
Astrology while fighting slayer tasks. Another benefit is the ability to buy prayer points,
Light Runes, and Food at a profit with the use of
Generous Resupply.
Requirements
There are very few hard requirements beyond the ability to survive and the entry requirement of Slayer Level 90, but there are several skills and items that will make this grind significantly easier, and we would be remiss to not mention them
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25% Flat Slayer Area Effect Negation |
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Pillar of Combat | |
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15% Flat Slayer Area Effect Negation |
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15% Flat Slayer Area Effect Negation |
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Safest, earliest way to massively reduce the DR requirement of Rokken |
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Extremely powerful magic weapon |
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Highest damage non-T90 ranged weapon for slayer |
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Powerful ranged weapon comparable to Slayer's Crossbow |
Below are some gear suggestions. Depending on what Prayer,
Potions, and
Agility buffs you use or have access to, your optimal gear can change.
Buffs
Agility
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3 | No particular reason beyond being the only obstacle that grants any combat benefits. | ||||
4 | No negative modifiers, technically saves some food. | ||||
5 | +20 hp. This does make your prayers cost more, but as you're buying your prayer points anyways, the cost increase isn't quite as painful. | ||||
6 | +3% damage, +1% DR. | ||||
7 | No negative combat modifiers. | ||||
8 | +5% Chance to Double Items, or extra HP and DR to meet thresholds. | ||||
9 | This obstacle does everything you want it to. | ||||
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P | Lots of beneficial combat bonuses |
Prayer
For Melee, use Battleheart and
Piety or the highest level combat style prayers you have available.
For Ranged, use Battleheart and
Rigour or the highest level combat style prayers you have available.
For Magic, use Battleheart and
Augury or the highest level combat style prayers you have available.
Potions
For all combat styles, use Diamond Luck Potions. If you absolutely need the extra damage reduction and can find no other source for it, use
Damage Reduction Potions
For Ranged, with Shockwave, it is sometimes possible that
Ranged Strength Potion IV is stronger than Diamond Luck Potions. This should never be done without checking Combat Sim for yourself, and should never be done unless the potion is specifically
Ranged Strength Potion IV, and not any lower mastery.
Summoning
For Melee, use Dragon and
Minotaur
For Ranged, use Dragon and
Centaur
For Magic, use Dragon and
Witch
Notably for Magic, using Cyclops and
Witch tablets will earn you significantly more coins at a fairly minimal loss of kills per hour. This is most obvious with
Cloudburst Staff.
Tidal Edge
To be able to idle Umbora with
Magic, you'll need 47 DR assuming you have 1,000
Hitpoints.
Umbora can be killed with Normal Magic if you have a
Cloudburst Staff or an
Ocean Song, or with Ancient Magicks with any Magic weapon at a slower rate. Note that Cloudburst is by far the fastest method, even if you have to squeeze in extra DR from
Guardian Ring or
Prayer
With Cloudburst Staff, use
Water Surge or
Water Wave (reduced rune cost),
Anguish III, and
Fury II.
With Ocean Song, use
Fire Surge,
Anguish III, and
Surge II.
With an Air Imbued Wand or a
Fire Imbued Wand, use
Gust or
Incinerate.
Use of Combination Runes is highly recommended for all methods.
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Slayer Wizard Hat (Master) and
Slayer Wizard Robes (Master) will kill you if used with
Cloudburst Staff and the normal build above. If all you care about is fragments, it is possible to equip a build with Master Slayer armor that is approximately 4% faster than the above recommended build. This is accomplished by equipping
Slayer Wizard Hat (Master),
Slayer Wizard Robes (Master),
Skull Cape AND
Raft Building - all 3 pieces of equipment must be worn to outpace Glacia armor, and the agility course keeps you from dying. You need 1050 HP and 45 DR.
Ocean Song
To be able to idle Ku-tul with
Ranged, you'll need 48 DR assuming you have 1,000
Hitpoints.
To most efficiently kill Ku-tul you'll use one of
Shockwave,
Slayer's Crossbow or a
Stormsnap. Use of
Jadestone Bolts is recommended,
Emerald Bolts are not recommended as Jadestone Bolts should be easily obtainable at this point in progression from
Hunting Greater Dragon.
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40% slayer area reduction increases your dps against Ku-tul, and therefore, unless it will lead to your untimely demise, at least a
Slayer Cowl (Elite) should be used.
Slayer Cowl (Master) and
Slayer Leather Body (Master) positively impact the amount of fragments you receive, and if available, should be used.
Shockwave
While the other two weapons are pretty straightforward in terms of gear, the Shockwave is not.
Rokken is by far the most dangerous and is both willing, and able to kill you if you are not extremely careful in your setup. This monster is able to buff itself to an attack speed of 2.2s, and is able to stun you, which increases its damage against you by 30%. Your goal here is either to be able to survive the increased stun damage, or to never actually take the stun damage by having an equivalent or faster attack speed than the monster's lowest speed.
You need to use Melee for this grind, it is highly recommended that you use an Infernal Claw to complete this.
Tidal Edge is too slow to reliably survive Rokken's stun without extra work (ie.
Otto), requiring you to make compromises that can massively affect your kill time.
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The Fighter/
FEZ is the best passive/neck setup, even beating out the item doubling from
Chapeau Noir. Note that wearing
FEZ is required to wear Master Slayer platebody.
One major note is that the Ring of Blade Echoes is marginally faster for fragments/h than all other rings.
Slayer Helmet (Master) and
Slayer Platebody (Master) positively impact the amount of fragments you receive, and if available, should be used.
To safely use Tidal Edge in this grind, the passive slot must be
Elder Crown and the player must have
Otto or some other way to reduce their interval by 0.1s.
For this set-up to work safely without risk of death, the player's attack interval while in combat with this enemy must be less than or equal to 2.2 seconds, as this means the player is quick enough to avoid taking extra damage when Rokken attacks with the Shockwave special attack. To achieve this, we use a weapon that has a base 2.2s interval, and gather 40% total slayer area negation through
Slayer Skillcape and
Slayer Helmet (Elite). At 1,000
Hitpoints, which can be achieved with
Level 97 and +30 HP from
Dragonfire Shield, this method requires 48% Damage Reduction.
Ultima Godsword: otherwise known as The Eraser. To use
Ultima Godsword the player must have at least 1,050
Hitpoints, 63% DR, and must have
Wasteful Ring equipped
Check your setup with the Combat Simulator before engaging Rokken.
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