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==Boosts==
==Boosts==
There are several items you can use to increase the rate at which you train the Crafting skill:
There are several items you can use to increase the rate at which you train the {{Skill|Smithing}} skill:


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==Acquiring Materials==
==Acquiring Materials==


Theres 2 types of [[Smithing]]. Either you smith bars, or you use the bars to smith gear.  
There are two types of {{Skill|Smithing}}. Either you smith bars, or you use the bars to smith gear.  
You mainly get ores from Mining. But some monsters allso drop ores or bars.  
You mainly get ores from {{Skill|Mining}}, but some [[monsters]] also drop ores or bars.  
Most of the gear you can craft can allso be gotten from monsters, mainly the knights. But dragon armor is harder to get. And you cant get the [[Dragon Helmet]] or [[Dragon Boots]] from anywhere else than [[Smithing]].
Most of the gear created with Smithing can also be obtained from [[monster]] drops, mainly knights located within {{ZoneIcon|Castle of Kings}}. Dragon armor however is harder to obtain, and you can't get the {{ItemIcon|Dragon Helmet}} or {{ItemIcon|Dragon Boots}} from anywhere other than Smithing.


==Efficient Training==
==Efficient Training==
This is a long one, so here's a


===Summary===
===Summary===


# Mine 60.000 {{ItemIcon|Mithril Ore}}.
# Mine {{ItemIcon|Mithril Ore|qty=60000}}.
# Get {{SkillReq|Mining|99}}.
# Get {{SkillReq|Mining|99}}.
# Mine {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence}} or {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}} with {{ItemIcon|Mining Skillcape}} to get 240.000 {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}}.
# Mine {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence}} or {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}} with {{ItemIcon|Mining Skillcape}} to get {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore|qty=240000}}.
# Make sure to always have {{ItemIcon|Smithing Gloves}} on at all times, if you are rich you can buy 211 gloves already.
# Make sure to always have {{ItemIcon|Smithing Gloves}} on at all times, if you are rich you can buy 211 gloves already.
# Smith all your Mithril into {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar}}s. [NOTE: If you have limited funds, do not wear Smithing Gloves for this step]
# Smith all your Mithril into {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar}}s. [NOTE: If you have limited funds, do not wear Smithing Gloves for this step]
# Smith all the Bars into {{ItemIcon|Mithril Platebody|Mithril Platebodies}} while wearing Smithing Gloves.
# Smith all the Bars into {{ItemIcon|Mithril Platebody|Mithril Platebodies}} while wearing Smithing Gloves.
# Sell the Platebodiess for a total loss of {{GP|10.7}}m.
# Sell the Platebodies for a total loss of {{GP|10.7}}m.


After following these steps, you should have enough XP to reach {{SkillReq|Smithing|99}}.
After following these steps, you should have enough XP to reach {{SkillReq|Smithing|99}}.
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The most efficient training method depends on a lot of things.
The most efficient training method depends on a lot of things.


What is your goal? Is it to get to 99 as fast as possible, or is it to prepare for the future? How are you gonna get your materials? What mining level are you?
What is your goal? Is it to get to 99 as fast as possible, or is it to prepare for the future? How are you going to get your materials? What {{Skill|Mining}} level are you?


It is far faster to get your materials from mining rather killing monsters.
It is far faster to get your materials from mining rather killing monsters.
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If you haven't started mining yet, this is the route I would advise you take:
If you haven't started mining yet, this is the route I would advise you take:


Start mining and just mine the highest ore until you reach Mithril. If you are actively playing, switching from a depleted ore to the 2nd highest ore you can mine while your highest ore is dead will speed up your mining XP, although this requires substantially more focus.
Start mining and just mine the highest ore until you reach Mithril. If you are actively playing, switching from a depleted ore to the 2nd highest ore you can mine while your highest ore is depleted will speed up your Mining XP, although this requires substantially more focus.


Once you unlock Mithril, you'll want to make sure you mine at least 60,000 Mithril Ore. After you do, push the rest of the way to level 99 mining.
Once you unlock Mithril, you'll want to make sure you mine at least {{ItemIcon|Mithril Ore|qty=60000}}. After you do, push the rest of the way to level {{SkillReq|Mining|99}}.


Once you reach level 99 Mining, buy the [[Mining Skillcape]]. While wearing the Mining Skillcape, an extra {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}} will be received for each mining action in addition to the normal ore.
Once you reach level 99 Mining, buy the [[Mining Skillcape]]. While wearing the Mining Skillcape, an extra {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}} will be received for each mining action in addition to the normal ore.
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So for {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar|qty=60000}}s, you need {{ItemIcon|Mithril Ore|qty=60000}} and {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore|qty=240000}}.
So for {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar|qty=60000}}s, you need {{ItemIcon|Mithril Ore|qty=60000}} and {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore|qty=240000}}.


Now theres 2 options: 1. Mine [[Coal Ore]], you are now efficiently getting 2 [[Coal Ore]] every time you mine a [[Coal Ore]]. This is the fastest way to get 240.000. <br>
Now theres two options:
2. Mine [[Rune Essence]]. To get to 99 Runecrafting you will need around 330.000 [[Rune Essence]]. Which if you are ever gonna get 99 Runecrafting you will need to mine at some point, so why not now. When you mine [[Rune Essence]] with the [[Mining Skillcape]] on you still get [[Coal Ore]] every time you mine. <br>
# Mine {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}}, you are now efficiently getting {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore|qty=2}} every time you mine a {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}}. This is the fastest way to get {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore|qty=240000}}.
You get baseline 2 [[Rune Essence]] per dig, but due to the [[Mastery]] unlocks you sometimes get double that. <br>
# Mine {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence}} with the {{ItemIcon|Mining Skillcape}} equipped. To reach {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|99}} you will need around {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|qty=330000}}, therefore you may wish to mine this now in preparation for later {{Skill|Runecrafting}} training. When mining {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence}} with the {{ItemIcon|Mining Skillcape}} you will still get {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}} for each Mining action.
So on the way to getting 330.000 [[Rune Essence]] you get somewhere around 140.000[[Coal Ore]]. <br>
 
After that you could mine some gold and silver ores that you will need furthere in your adventures to upgrade your gear to (S) and (G). <br>
You get baseline {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|qty=2}} per action, but due to the [[Mastery]] unlocks you sometimes get double that. <br>
Full Mithril (g) is 700 [[Silver Bar]] and 1000 [[Gold Bar]]. <br>
So {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore|qty=140000}} will also be obtained on the way to getting {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|qty=330000}}. <br>
Full Adamant (g) is 1000 [[Silver Bar]] and 2000 [[Gold Bar]]. <br>
Afterwards, consder mining some {{ItemIcon|Gold Ore|Gold}} and {{ItemIcon|Silver Ore|Silver Ores}}, which can be turned into bars and used to upgrade various melee armour to their (s) and (g) variants:
Full Rune (g) is 1600 [[Silver Bar]] and 3000 [[Gold Bar]]. <br>
* Full Mithril (g) is {{ItemIcon|Silver Bar|qty=700}} and {{ItemIcon|Gold Bar|qty=1000}}.
Full Dragon (g) is 3200 [[Silver Bar]] and 6000 [[Gold Bar]]. <br>
* Full Adamant (g) is {{ItemIcon|Silver Bar|qty=1000}} and {{ItemIcon|Gold Bar|qty=2000}}.
Full Ancient (g) is 6000 [[Silver Bar]] and 10000 [[Gold Bar]]. <br>
* Full Rune (g) is {{ItemIcon|Silver Bar|qty=1600}} and {{ItemIcon|Gold Bar|qty=3000}}.
Using [[Seeing Gold Potion]]s will give your [[Silver Ore]] a chance to also produce a [[Gold Bar]] when smithed. <br>
* Full Dragon (g) is {{ItemIcon|Silver Bar|qty=3200}} and {{ItemIcon|Gold Bar|qty=6000}}.
Or you can just mine [[Coal Ore]] til you reach the goal. <br>
* Full Ancient (g) is {{ItemIcon|Silver Bar|qty=6000}} and {{ItemIcon|Gold Bar|qty=10000}}
Using [[Seeing Gold Potion|Seeing Gold Potions]] will give {{ItemIcon|Silver Ore}} a chance to also produce a {{ItemIcon|Gold Bar}} when smelted. <br>
Or you can just mine {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}} until you reach the goal.<br>


'''Now we get back to the smithing part.''' <br>
'''Now we get back to the smithing part.''' <br>
If you did the math, 60.000 bars only gives 35 exp each bar, and when smithing Mithril gear you only get 50 exp per bar used? That only adds up to just above 5 million exp, and you need 13.034.431 exp to get to 99. <br>
If you did the math, {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar|qty=60000}} only gives 35 XP per bar, and when smithing Mithril gear you only get 50 XP per bar used? That only adds up to just above 5 million XP, and you need 13,034,431 XP to reach {{SkillReq|Smithing|99}}. <br>
With {{ItemIcon|Smithing Gloves}} the exp for each bar and gear is increased by 50%. <br>
With {{ItemIcon|Smithing Gloves}} the XP for each bar and gear is increased by 50%. <br>
50% on top of 5 million still isn't 13mil. <br>
This 50% increase brings us to 7.5 million XP, which is still quite short of the required 13 million. <br>
Thats why we take a look at the [[Mastery]] unlocks. <br>
That's why we take a look at the [[Mastery]] unlocks.
[[Smithing]] has the most items you can get [[Mastery]] in by a alot. This allso means the [[Mastery]] pool is very big compared to every other skill. <br>
 
This means its harder to reach those mastery pool checkpoints. But makes it easier to reach the individual item checkpoints. <br>
[[Smithing]] has the most items of any skill, this also means the [[Mastery]] pool is very big compared to every other skill. <br>
1 [[Mastery Tokens]] gives 0.1% of [[Mastery]] pool. Thieving has the smallest pool at only 4million compared to [[Smithing]]s at 57,5mil. This means 1 token in [[Smithing]] gives more than 14 times as much [[Mastery]] exp than a thieving one. Along with the chance to get a [[Mastery Tokens]] increases the more milestones you unlocked. And with [[Smithing]] having the most items you unlock, it allso haves the highest and fastest growing chance of you getting a [[Mastery Tokens]]. <br>
This means that while it is harder to reach each mastery pool checkpoint, it is however easier to reach individual item checkpoints. <br>
So getting to 99 [[Mastery]] in [[Mithril Bar]]s will take you very little time. <br>
One [[Mastery Token]] gives mastery pool XP equal to 0.1% of the [[Mastery#The Mastery Pool|Mastery pool]] capacity. {{Skill|Thieving}} has the smallest pool at only 4 million XP compared to {{Skill|Smithing}} at 57.5 million. This means {{ItemIcon|Mastery Token (Smithing)|qty=1}} gives more than 14 times as much [[Mastery]] XP than a single {{ItemIcon|Mastery Token (Thieving)}}. In addition, the chance to get [[Mastery Tokens]] increases when more milestones are unlocked. This combined with Smithing having the most items to unlock, results in the skill having the highest and fastest growing chance of obtaining a [[Mastery Tokens|Mastery Token]] per action. <br>
So getting to 99 [[Mastery]] in {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar|Mithril Bars}} will take you very little time.


'''Now what does this do?'''<br>
'''Now what does this do?'''<br>
[[Mastery]] gives you a base chance to preserve resoureces. Meaning you craft a [[Mithril Bar]], but you dont lose your ores and [[Coal Ore]]. Giving you a free bar. <br>
[[Mastery]] gives you a base chance to preserve resources, meaning when smelting a {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar}} there is a chance that no {{ItemIcon|Mithril Ore}} or {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}} will be consumed, essentially giving you a free bar. An additional benefit of Smithing mastery is that there is also a chance to double items gained, giving you 2 bars instead of 1. <br>
It allso gives you a chance to get 2 bars insted of 1. <br>
So without considering the 25% and 50% [[Mastery]] pool unlocks, when you smelt {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar|Mithril Bars|qty=60000}} the chance to preserve resources and double items will instead result in the player obtaining approximately {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar|Mithril Bars|qty=105300}}.
So without counting the 25% and 50% [[Mastery]] pool unlocks. When you craft 60.000 [[Mithril Bar]]s you preserve materials so you acctualy craft around 78.000 bars. And when you craft 78.000 bars, you optaine around 105.300 bars in the end due to the chance of getting 2 items insted of 1. <br>
 
To be most efficient and fastest when using the bars, we pick the platebody. As every item takes the same to craft, and gives the same exp per bar, therefore using 5 bars at once is 5 times faster than if you were to make [[Mithril Dagger]]s insted. <br>
To achieve the fastest possible XP rate when using the bars the {{ItemIcon|Mithril Platebody}} should be crafted, as every item takes the same to craft, and gives the same XP per bar. Therefore, crafting an item that requires {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar|Mithril Bars|qty=5}} is 5 times faster than if you were to make {{ItemIcon|Mithril Dagger|Mithril Daggers}} instead. In addition, since only a single item and bar type is being created the [[Mastery]] level of these items will quickly reach 99, allowing us to benefit from the perks of resource preservation and item doubling.
And we only use 1 kind of item, so we make most of our things at 99 [[Mastery]], the faster you can get your [[Mithril Bar]] and Mithril platebody to 99 the more you save.
 
With your 105.300 bars the same preserve and double thing happends when you craft platebodys. You craft a total platebodys around 27378, thats 6318 more platebodys due to the preserve. And in the end you get around 36.960 platebodys to sell. <br>
As when creating {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar|Mithril Bars|qty=105300}} the chance to preserve resources and double items still applies with creating {{ItemIcon|Mithril Platebody|Mithril Platebodies}}, meaning the player can expect to receive an additional 6,318 platebodies for a total of {{ItemIcon|Mithril Platebody|Mithril Platebodies|qty=36960}} to sell.
Now while we are doing all this, we are wearing [[Smithing Gloves]]. Each glove costs 100.000 GP and gives 500 charges, so each charge costs 200 GP.<br>
 
You end up doing around 105.378 crafts, making you spend 21.075.600 GP on gloves. <br>
While smelting bars and creating platbodies, {{ItemIcon|Smithing Gloves}} should be worn. Each glove costs {{GP|100000}} and gives 500 charges, so each charge costs {{GP|200}}. Around 105,378 Smithing actions will take place, meaning you spend a total of {{GP|21075600}} on gloves. This cost is partially offset by the sale value of the created {{ItemIcon|Mithril Platebody|Mithril Platebodies}}, at around {{GP|10348884}} this means you get about half of the money back. <br>
In return you can sell all the Mithril platebodys for 10.348.884 GP getting you around half the money back.<br>


If you followed this guide, you are now the proud owner of 99 [[Mining]], 99 [[Runecrafting]] banked, 99 [[Smithing]] and a debt of around 10.7 mil GP.  
If you followed this guide, you are now the proud owner of 99 {{Skill|Mining}}, 99 {{Skill|Runecrafting}} banked, and 99 {{Skill|Smithing}}, at a cost of around {{GP|10.7}} million.  


If you find any errors, or if you know of another mabye more efficient way feel free to hit me up on Discord: Martinmagi#7989
If you find any errors, or if you know of another maybe more efficient way feel free to hit me up on Discord: Martinmagi#7989


[[Category:Skill Training]]
[[Category:Skill Training]]

Revision as of 19:16, 16 January 2021

This article is about training the Smithing skill. For the skill itself, see Smithing.

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Boosts

There are several items you can use to increase the rate at which you train the Smithing skill:

Name Description
Ancient Ring of Skills The Ancient Ring of Skills is a rare drop that can be found while Fishing. It increases the XP gained from non-combat skills by 8%.
Pyro The Firemaking pet provides a +1% boost to XP gained in any skill.
Firemaking Skillcape The Firemaking Skillcape provides a +5% boost to XP gained in any skill when worn.
Art of Control After beating the Fire God Dungeon players can purchase Art of Control, which decreases the time per action for Cooking, Firemaking and Smithing by 20%
Puff, the Baby Dragon Once acquired, the Smithing pet gives +10% chance to preserve resources when Smithing.
Smithing Skillcape The Smithing Skillcape Halve Coal Ore Requirements when smelting bars using the smithing skill.

(Does not affect Superheat Alt Magic spells).

Seeing Gold Potion This Smithing Potion can be made at Herblore Level 36 and gives 10% chance for Silver Ore to also produce a Gold Bar when smithed
Smithing Gloves +50% Smithing XP when worn, until depleted.

Acquiring Materials

There are two types of Smithing. Either you smith bars, or you use the bars to smith gear. You mainly get ores from Mining, but some monsters also drop ores or bars. Most of the gear created with Smithing can also be obtained from monster drops, mainly knights located within Castle of Kings. Dragon armor however is harder to obtain, and you can't get the Dragon Helmet or Dragon Boots from anywhere other than Smithing.

Efficient Training

Summary

  1. Mine 60,000 Mithril Ore.
  2. Get Mining Level 99.
  3. Mine Rune Essence or Coal Ore with Mining Skillcape to get 240,000 Coal Ore.
  4. Make sure to always have Smithing Gloves on at all times, if you are rich you can buy 211 gloves already.
  5. Smith all your Mithril into Mithril Bars. [NOTE: If you have limited funds, do not wear Smithing Gloves for this step]
  6. Smith all the Bars into Mithril Platebodies while wearing Smithing Gloves.
  7. Sell the Platebodies for a total loss of Coins.svg 10.7m.

After following these steps, you should have enough XP to reach Smithing Level 99.

Detailed Guide

The most efficient training method depends on a lot of things.

What is your goal? Is it to get to 99 as fast as possible, or is it to prepare for the future? How are you going to get your materials? What Mining level are you?

It is far faster to get your materials from mining rather killing monsters.

This guide assumes that you are smelting your bars using the Smithing skill rather than using the Superheat IV Alt. Magic spell, which means your primary resource bottleneck will be Coal Ore

Mining Strategy

If you haven't started mining yet, this is the route I would advise you take:

Start mining and just mine the highest ore until you reach Mithril. If you are actively playing, switching from a depleted ore to the 2nd highest ore you can mine while your highest ore is depleted will speed up your Mining XP, although this requires substantially more focus.

Once you unlock Mithril, you'll want to make sure you mine at least 60,000 Mithril Ore. After you do, push the rest of the way to level Mining Level 99.

Once you reach level 99 Mining, buy the Mining Skillcape. While wearing the Mining Skillcape, an extra Coal Ore will be received for each mining action in addition to the normal ore.

For each Mithril Bar, you need 1 Mithril Ore and 4 Coal Ore.

So for 60,000 Mithril Bars, you need 60,000 Mithril Ore and 240,000 Coal Ore.

Now theres two options:

  1. Mine Coal Ore, you are now efficiently getting 2 Coal Ore every time you mine a Coal Ore. This is the fastest way to get 240,000 Coal Ore.
  2. Mine Rune Essence with the Mining Skillcape equipped. To reach Runecrafting Level 99 you will need around 330,000 Rune Essence, therefore you may wish to mine this now in preparation for later Runecrafting training. When mining Rune Essence with the Mining Skillcape you will still get Coal Ore for each Mining action.

You get baseline 2 Rune Essence per action, but due to the Mastery unlocks you sometimes get double that.
So 140,000 Coal Ore will also be obtained on the way to getting 330,000 Rune Essence.
Afterwards, consder mining some Gold and Silver Ores, which can be turned into bars and used to upgrade various melee armour to their (s) and (g) variants:

Using Seeing Gold Potions will give Silver Ore a chance to also produce a Gold Bar when smelted.
Or you can just mine Coal Ore until you reach the goal.

Now we get back to the smithing part.
If you did the math, 60,000 Mithril Bar only gives 35 XP per bar, and when smithing Mithril gear you only get 50 XP per bar used? That only adds up to just above 5 million XP, and you need 13,034,431 XP to reach Smithing Level 99.
With Smithing Gloves the XP for each bar and gear is increased by 50%.
This 50% increase brings us to 7.5 million XP, which is still quite short of the required 13 million.
That's why we take a look at the Mastery unlocks.

Smithing has the most items of any skill, this also means the Mastery pool is very big compared to every other skill.
This means that while it is harder to reach each mastery pool checkpoint, it is however easier to reach individual item checkpoints.
One Mastery Token gives mastery pool XP equal to 0.1% of the Mastery pool capacity. Thieving has the smallest pool at only 4 million XP compared to Smithing at 57.5 million. This means 1 Mastery Token (Smithing) gives more than 14 times as much Mastery XP than a single Mastery Token (Thieving). In addition, the chance to get Mastery Tokens increases when more milestones are unlocked. This combined with Smithing having the most items to unlock, results in the skill having the highest and fastest growing chance of obtaining a Mastery Token per action.
So getting to 99 Mastery in Mithril Bars will take you very little time.

Now what does this do?
Mastery gives you a base chance to preserve resources, meaning when smelting a Mithril Bar there is a chance that no Mithril Ore or Coal Ore will be consumed, essentially giving you a free bar. An additional benefit of Smithing mastery is that there is also a chance to double items gained, giving you 2 bars instead of 1.
So without considering the 25% and 50% Mastery pool unlocks, when you smelt 60,000 Mithril Bars the chance to preserve resources and double items will instead result in the player obtaining approximately 105,300 Mithril Bars.

To achieve the fastest possible XP rate when using the bars the Mithril Platebody should be crafted, as every item takes the same to craft, and gives the same XP per bar. Therefore, crafting an item that requires 5 Mithril Bars is 5 times faster than if you were to make Mithril Daggers instead. In addition, since only a single item and bar type is being created the Mastery level of these items will quickly reach 99, allowing us to benefit from the perks of resource preservation and item doubling.

As when creating 105,300 Mithril Bars the chance to preserve resources and double items still applies with creating Mithril Platebodies, meaning the player can expect to receive an additional 6,318 platebodies for a total of 36,960 Mithril Platebodies to sell.

While smelting bars and creating platbodies, Smithing Gloves should be worn. Each glove costs Coins.svg 100,000 and gives 500 charges, so each charge costs Coins.svg 200. Around 105,378 Smithing actions will take place, meaning you spend a total of Coins.svg 21,075,600 on gloves. This cost is partially offset by the sale value of the created Mithril Platebodies, at around Coins.svg 10,348,884 this means you get about half of the money back.

If you followed this guide, you are now the proud owner of 99 Mining, 99 Runecrafting banked, and 99 Smithing, at a cost of around Coins.svg 10.7 million.

If you find any errors, or if you know of another maybe more efficient way feel free to hit me up on Discord: Martinmagi#7989