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===Summary===
For the fastest completion time, farm the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw Fragment|Ancient Claw Fragments}} with the {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell|Slicing Winds}} build right after you finish {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave|qty=100}} clears.
===Introduction===
===Introduction===
TL;DR - Jump to the Conclusion part if you just want the result.
{{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain.
{{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain.


The Ancient Claw is assembled from the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw Fragment|fragments}} that drop only from the {{Icon|Pegasus|type=monster}}. You need to kill 3333 {{MonsterIcon|Pegasus|Pegasi}} on average to get enough fragments.
The Ancient Claw is assembled from the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw Fragment|fragments}} that drop only from {{MonsterIcon|Pegasus}}. On average, {{formatnum:3333}} {{MonsterIcon|Pegasus|Pegasi}} kills are required in order to obtain enough fragments.


The question is when to farm it and what combat style is the best for that. The main point of contention is whether to farm it before or after the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} because this dungeon is farmed with a Melee build and is vital for idling the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}}.
The question is when to farm it and what combat style is the best for that. The main point of contention is whether to farm it before or after the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}}, as this dungeon is farmed with a {{Icon|Melee}} build and is vital for idling the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}}.


To answer these questions, we will consider the following builds:
To answer these questions, the following builds will be considered:
* Starter {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Hat|runecrafting}} magic,
* {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell|Surge}} magic,
* {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} melee,
* {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|Rapier}} melee,
* Ancient Magick,  
* {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} magic,  
* Ancient Magick in {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet|Glacia}}.
* {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet|Glacia}} magic.


These builds were chosen to show the changes that the various drops bring into farming the Pegasus. The ranged builds were not considered because the {{Icon|Pegasus|type=monster}} is {{Icon|Melee}} and has the highest evasion against {{Skill|Ranged}} in addition to the [[Combat Triangle]].
These builds were chosen to show the changes that the various drops bring into farming Pegasus. {{Skill|Ranged}} builds were not considered because the {{MonsterIcon|Pegasus}} is {{Icon|Melee}} and has the highest evasion against Ranged in addition to the [[Combat Triangle]].
 
In the considered situations, no prayers, potions, or other buffs are enabled unless specified. <br>
The skill levels are given so that you can replicate the simulations in the [[Combat Simulator]]. <br>
The {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}} is used. <br>
The {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)}} is used as a food of choice.
 
The ring slot is always occupied with {{ItemIcon|Magical Ring}}.


===Builds===
===Builds===
====Starter magic====
Each build assumes the following:
 
* The ring slot is always occupied with {{ItemIcon|Magical Ring}}.
{| class="wikitable"
* No [[Prayer|prayers]], [[Potions|potions]], or other buffs are enabled unless specified.
|-
* {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}} is used.
! Item
* {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)}} is used as the [[Food]] of choice because it is considered a middle ground between starting out and being fully levelled in {{Skill|Firemaking}}, {{Skill|Fishing}}, {{Skill|Farming}}, and {{Skill|Cooking}}.
! DR
* The character is on the {{Icon|Hardcore}} game mode with all [[Combat]] skills at level 75. This means all builds presented here are suitable regardless of the game mode being played.
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Hat}}
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Robes}}
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms}}
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Boots}}
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}}
| 2%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Enchanted Cape}}
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Magic}}
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Paladin Gloves}}
| 4%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)}}
| 0%
|-
| Total
| 26%
|}
 
{{SpoilerBox|text=
{{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} is used with Combination Runes. All skills are at level 75.
 
The [[Combat Simulator|simulation]] results are:
* 1358 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient runes}} spent,
* 151.9 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 23 Pegasi per hour.
 
<math>T_c = 151.9 * 18.875 = 2867</math>
 
<math>T_m = (N * 7 * (1 + 2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + N / 16) * 1.3 = N / 16 * (8.75 + 1) * 1.3 = N * 12.675 / 16</math>
 
<math>T_r = N * 9.75 * 2 / 16 = N * 9.75 / 8</math>
 
<math>N = 1358</math>
 
<math>T_m = 1358 * 12.675 / 16 = 1076</math>
 
<math>T_r = 1358 * 9.75 / 8 = 1655</math>
 
The adjusted time <math>A_{start} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 2867 + 1076 + 1655) / 23 = 400</math>
 
In other words, the time that is required to get all resources for killing one Pegasus and to actually kill it is 400 seconds.
 
The overall time to get all resources and kill all Pegasi is <math>400 * 3333 / 3600 = 371 \text{ hours}.</math>
 
|title=Details|color=default}}
 
The overall time to get all resources and kill all Pegasi is 371 hours.
 
====After-Ship melee====
 
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Item
! DR
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Helmet}}
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platebody}}
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platelegs}}
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Boots}}
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Shield}}
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Calculated Promotion|Promotion}} or {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Glory|Glory}}
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Paladin Gloves}}
| 4%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 0%
|-
| Total
| 34%
|}
{{SpoilerBox|text=
All skills are at level 75.
 
The simulation results are:
* 33.2 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 26.57 Pegasi per hour.
 
<math>T_c = 33.2 * 18.875 = 626.7</math>
 
The adjusted time <math>A_{ship} = (3600 + 626.7) / 26.57 = 159.08</math>
 
The overall time is <math>159.08 * 3333 / 3600 = 148 \text{ hours}.</math>
|title=Details|color=default}}
 
The overall grind time with this build is 148 hours.
 
====After-Volcanic magic====
 
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Item
! DR
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Wizard Hat}}
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Wizard Robes}}
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Wizard Bottoms}}
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Wizard Boots}}
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}}
| 2%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Enchanted Cape}}
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Magic}}
| 2%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Elementalist Gloves}}
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)}}
| 0%
|-
| Total
| 24%
|}
{{SpoilerBox|text=
All skills are at level 75 except {{SkillReq|Magic|91}}. With the following setup, you should have exactly 20k accuracy on {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}}, they cannot miss now.


The simulation results with {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli|Eli}} are:
Skill levels are given so that these simulations may be replicated using the [[Combat Simulator]] add-in.
* 4905 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient runes}} spent,
* 107.9 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 196.2 Pegasi per hour.


<math>T_c = 107.9 * 18.875 = 2037</math>
All intermediate steps can be found in [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GTuVLA0lWguB-72hiLNLmwAxNLNY0gSqkPGHpGmydHk/edit?usp=sharing this spreadsheet].


<math>T_m = (N * 20 + N) / 16 * 1.3 = N * 21 / 16 * 1.3 = N * 27.3 / 16</math>
===={{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell|Surge}} Magic====
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Magic
|showDR=true
|helm1=Slayer Wizard Hat (Strong)
|neck1=Amulet of Magic
|cape1=Enchanted Cape
|ring1=Magical Ring
|body1=Slayer Wizard Robes (Strong)
|legs1=Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms
|shield1=Miolite Shield
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves
|boots1=Fire Expert Wizard Boots
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful)
}}


<math>T_r = N * 21 * 2 / 16 = N * 21 / 8</math>
The average time to obtain all {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw Fragment|Ancient Claw Fragments|qty=100}} with this build is 122 hours. However, note that without Slayer gear this can be in excess of 283 hours.


<math>N = 4905</math>
===={{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|Rapier}} Melee====
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Melee
|showDR=true
|helm1=Slayer Helmet (Strong)
|neck1=!{{ItemIcon|Amulet of Calculated Promotion|Promotion}} or {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Glory|Glory}}
|ring1=Magical Ring
|body1=Slayer Platebody (Strong)
|legs1=(G) Dragon Platelegs
|shield1=(G) Dragon Shield
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves
|boots1=(G) Dragon Boots
|weapon1=Sunset Rapier
}}


<math>T_m = 4905 * 27.3 / 16 = 8370</math>
The grind time with this build is 67 hours. Without Slayer gear, this time increases significantly to 142 hours.


<math>T_r = 4905 * 21 / 8 = 12876</math>
===={{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} Magic====
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Magic
|showDR=true
|helm1=Ancient Wizard Hat
|neck1=Elite Amulet of Magic
|cape1=Skull Cape
|ring1=Magical Ring
|body1=Ancient Wizard Robes
|legs1=Ancient Wizard Bottoms
|shield1=Miolite Shield
|gloves1=Elementalist Gloves
|boots1=Ancient Wizard Boots
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful)
}}


The adjusted time <math>A_{volcano} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 2037 + 8370 + 12876) / 196.2 = 137</math>
Reaching at least 20,000 accuracy is key for this build, as this prevents {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} from missing. Therefore, while the build only requires a minimum of {{SkillReq|Magic|72}}, and at most {{SkillReq|Magic|93}} or multiple accuracy bonuses from sources such as:
* {{ItemIcon|Magic Assistance Potion|Magic Assistance Potions}}
* {{Skill|Astrology}}
* {{Skill|Prayer}}
* {{Skill|Agility}}


The overall time is <math>137 * 3333 / 3600 = 127 \text{ hours}.</math>
{{Icon|Surge I|type=aurora}} or {{Icon|Surge II|type=aurora}} can be used if you can afford them.


Worth noting that using a {{ItemIcon|Mystic Air Staff}} will ''drastically'' reduce the amount of runes spent - especially while using Surge Auroras. The staff will be slower, and will require more [[Food]] due to the player taking a greater number of hits.


'''Warning:''' Swapping {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}} for {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli}} will not significantly reduce kill times, while also forcing you to spend more runes and therefore more time Runecrafting.


If you swap {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}} to {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli}}, it will only increase the clear time because your melee defence would plummet, resulting in many more Whales eaten.
The grind time with this build is 48 hours. Slayer equipment has no impact on the clear speed in this case.


The simulation results with {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli|Eli}} are:
===={{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet|Glacia}} Magic====
* 4905 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient runes}} spent,
{{Equipment/Recommended
* 172.4 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
|style=Magic
* 196.2 Pegasi per hour.
|showDR=true
|helm1=Glacia God Helmet
|neck1=Elite Amulet of Magic
|cape1=Infernal Cape
|ring1=Magical Ring
|body1=Glacia God Platebody
|legs1=Glacia God Platelegs
|shield1=Miolite Shield
|gloves1=Glacia God Gloves
|boots1=Glacia God Boots
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful)
}}


<math>T_c = 172.4 * 18.875 = 3254</math>
The grind time with this build is 44 hours.


<math>T_m = 8370</math>. <math>T_r = 12876</math>
However, this build implies that the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}} would need to be cleared with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}, which is a sizeable loss of DPS that will cost more than 4 hours of the difference between this build and the Slicing Winds build.
 
The adjusted time <math>A_{eli} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 3254 + 8370 + 12876) / 196.2 = 143.2</math>
 
The overall time is <math>143.2 * 3333 / 3600 = 133 \text{ hours}.</math>
|title=Details|color=default}}
 
The overall grind time with this build is 127 hours.
 
 
Overall, you want to put as much DR and Melee defence as possible when maintaining the 20k accuracy.
 
For instance, if you have {{SkillReq|Magic|93}} with the build above, you can swap {{ItemIcon|Enchanted Cape}} with {{ItemIcon|Fire Cape}} and reduce the food consumption even further.
 
The rune mining and crafting take the bulk of the time, so you might want to use all preservation and doubling bonuses that you have.
 
====After-Glacia magic====
 
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Item
! DR
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet}}
| 8%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Platebody}}
| 8%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Platelegs}}
| 8%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Boots}}
| 8%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Gloves}}
| 8%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}}
| 2%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Infernal Cape}}
| 4%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Magic}}
| 2%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)}}
| 0%
|-
| Total
| 48%
|}
{{SpoilerBox|text=
The levels are the same as in the Volcanic build. Due to Ancient Magic not benefiting from gear, the build was aimed to cram as much DR and melee evasion as possible. If you have {{SkillReq|Magic|95}}, you should be able to swap for {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Defence}} while still having the required 20k accuracy.
 
The simulation results are:
* 4905 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient runes}} spent,
* 47.7 {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)|whales}} per hour,
* 196.2 Pegasi per hour.
 
As the number of runes is the same, <math>T_m = 8370.</math> <math>T_r = 12876.</math>
 
<math>T_c = 47.7 * 18.875 = 900.3</math>
 
The adjusted time <math>A_{glacia} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 900.3 + 8370 + 12876) / 196.2 = 131.2</math>
 
The overall time is <math>131.2 * 3333 / 3600 = 121.5 \text{ hours}.</math>
|title=Details|color=default}}
 
The overall grind time with this build is 121.5 hours.


==Analysis==
==Analysis==
Essentially, we want to know which of two sequences is faster:
Essentially, we want to know which of two sequences is faster:
* Rapier > Claw > Volcano,
* Rapier Claw Volcano,
* Rapier > Volcano > Claw.
* Rapier Volcano Claw.


====Full-Sunset Volcano vs Full-Claw Volcano====
====Full-Sunset Volcano vs Full-Claw Volcano====
Let's consider the post-Ship and post-Glacia builds.
Let's consider the builds Rapier and Slicing Winds.


The difference between their timings of completing the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} is 27 hours.
The difference between their timings of completing the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} is 19 hours.


The Volcano grind of the full {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set is longer with the with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} than it is with the Claw.
The Volcano grind of the full {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set is longer with the with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} than it is with the Claw.


The question is then if the difference between the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|rapier}} and the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} in the Volcanic grind is bigger than 27 hours.  
The question is then if the difference between the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|rapier}} and the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} in the Volcanic grind is bigger than 19 hours.  


We know the length of "Raper > Claw" and "Volcano > Claw" through the info of post-Ship and post-Glacia builds, but we need the data on "Rapier > Volcano" and "Claw > Volcano".
We know the length of "Rapier → Claw" and "Volcano Claw", but we need the data on "Rapier Volcano" and "Claw Volcano".


We take this data from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice]].
We take this data from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice]].
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|-
|-
! Item
! Item
! Adjusted clear time (s)
! Adjusted clears per hour
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 1892
| 5.204
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 1717
| 5.412
|}
|}


The goal of clearing the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} is to get the {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set.
The goal of clearing the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} is to get the {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set.


As specified on in the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide]], you need 1350 clears to almost certainly get a full set of Ancient armor or 832 clears to have a 75% chance. The median (50% or results) is 564 clears.
As specified on in the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide]], you need 1350 clears to almost certainly get a full set of Ancient armour or 832 clears to have a 75% chance. The median (50% of results) is 564 clears.


{| class="wikitable"  
{| class="wikitable"  
|-
|-
! Item
! Item
! Adjusted clear time (clears/h)
! Adjusted clears per hour
! 564 clears (h)
! 564 clears (h)
! 832 clears (h)
! 832 clears (h)
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|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 1.9027
| 5.204
| 296.4
| 108.4
| 437
| 160
| 710
| 259.4
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 2.0967
| 5.412
| 267
| 104.2
| 397
| 153.7
| 644
| 249.5
|-
|-
| Difference (h)
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Difference (h)
|  
| 4.2
| 29
| 6.3
| 40
| 10.1
| 66
|}
|}


As you see from the Difference row, even the 50% chance still gives the 4-hour advantage if you get the Claw before the Volcanic Cave.
The biggest difference is 10 hours. It means that Rapier → Volcano → Claw is faster than Rapier Claw → Volcano by at least 9 hours.
 
Therefore, if you farm the Volcanic Cave completely with the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} and then farm the Claw with Glacia, the sum of the Volcanic and Claw farm will be larger than if you were to farm the Claw with the Rapier and then doing the Volcanic Cave. And we didn't even consider the time loss of doing the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}} with the Rapier instead of the Claw.


However, what if we were to use the [[Ancient Magicks]] as soon as we unlock it?
However, what if we were to use the [[Ancient Magicks]] as soon as we unlock it?


====Sunset/Ancient Volcano vs Claw/Ancient Volcano====
====Sunset/Ancient Volcano vs Claw/Ancient Volcano====
It is possible to clear the Volcano using the Ancient Magicks with the build from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic]]. Pay attention that you need 37% DR with {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=920|HP}} to idle it. That amount of DR is reached either through the {{Icon|Stone Skin|type=prayer}} prayer or through the {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion II|DR potion II}}.
It is possible to clear the Volcano using [[Ancient Magicks]] with the build from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic]]. Pay attention that you need 37% DR with {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=920|HP}} to idle it. That amount of DR is reached either through the {{PrayerIcon|Stone Skin}} prayer or through the {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion II|DR potion II}}. Without prayer or potions, you need {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=940|HP}}.


If we consider that we clear only 100 Volcanoes as a melee build and the rest as the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic|100-Volcanoes]] Magic build, then we compare the two sequences:
If we consider that we clear only 100 Volcanoes as a melee build and the rest as the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic|100-Volcanoes]] Magic build, then we compare the two sequences:
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|-
|-
! Item
! Item
! Adjusted clear time (clears/h)
! Adjusted clears per hour
! 100 clears (h)
! 100 clears (h)
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 1.9027
| 5.204
| 52.56
| 52.04
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 2.0967
| 5.412
| 47.69
| 54.12
|-
|-
| Difference (h)
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Difference (h)
|  
| 2.08
| 4.87
|}
|}


In other words, the advantage of farming 100 Volcanic Caves with the Claw when compared to the Sunset Rapier is less than 5 hours.
In other words, the advantage of farming 100 {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave|Volcanic Caves}} with the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} when compared to the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} is 2 hours.


If we consider the rearranged sum of what we compare
Now we consider the rearranged sum of what we compare:


* Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
* Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
* Claw farm with Ancient Magicks + 100 Rapier Volcanoes.
* Claw farm with Slicing Winds + 100 Rapier Volcanoes.
 
We subtract the second row from the first one and get


and then subtract the second row from the first one, then we would get
<math>19 - 2.08 = 16.92</math>


<math>27 - 4.87 = 22.13</math>
In other words the sequence where we farm the Claw after the Volcano is faster than the sequence of farming the claw with Rapier by 17 hours.


In other words the sequence where we farm the Claw after the Volcano is faster than the sequence of farming the claw with Rapier by 22 hours.
==Conclusion==
Farm the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} with the {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} build right after you finish {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave|qty=100|Volcanic Caves}}. Don't forget to enable the Surge aurora.


== Conclusion ==
If you cannot use this build for some reason, then use the Rapier melee build with Slayer gear.
If you have the means to replicate the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic|Ancient Magicks]] build then get everything you need from the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} with it and farm the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} with it.


If you are not going to use the Ancient Magick build to clear the rest of needed Volcanoes, then it might be a good idea to farm the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} with the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} and clear the Volcano with the Claw.
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Summary

For the fastest completion time, farm the Ancient Claw Fragments with the Slicing Winds build right after you finish 100 Volcanic Cave clears.

Introduction

Ancient Claw is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain.

The Ancient Claw is assembled from the fragments that drop only from Pegasus. On average, 3,333 Pegasi kills are required in order to obtain enough fragments.

The question is when to farm it and what combat style is the best for that. The main point of contention is whether to farm it before or after the Volcanic Cave, as this dungeon is farmed with a Melee build and is vital for idling the Air God Dungeon.

To answer these questions, the following builds will be considered:

These builds were chosen to show the changes that the various drops bring into farming Pegasus. Ranged builds were not considered because the Pegasus is Melee and has the highest evasion against Ranged in addition to the Combat Triangle.

Builds

Each build assumes the following:

Skill levels are given so that these simulations may be replicated using the Combat Simulator add-in.

All intermediate steps can be found in this spreadsheet.

Surge Magic

The average time to obtain all 100 Ancient Claw Fragments with this build is 122 hours. However, note that without Slayer gear this can be in excess of 283 hours.

Rapier Melee

The grind time with this build is 67 hours. Without Slayer gear, this time increases significantly to 142 hours.

Slicing Winds Magic

Reaching at least 20,000 accuracy is key for this build, as this prevents Slicing Winds from missing. Therefore, while the build only requires a minimum of Magic Level 72, and at most Magic Level 93 or multiple accuracy bonuses from sources such as:

Surge I or Surge II can be used if you can afford them.

Worth noting that using a Mystic Air Staff will drastically reduce the amount of runes spent - especially while using Surge Auroras. The staff will be slower, and will require more Food due to the player taking a greater number of hits.

Warning: Swapping Miolite Shield for Book of Eli will not significantly reduce kill times, while also forcing you to spend more runes and therefore more time Runecrafting.

The grind time with this build is 48 hours. Slayer equipment has no impact on the clear speed in this case.

Glacia Magic

The grind time with this build is 44 hours.

However, this build implies that the Air God Dungeon would need to be cleared with Sunset Rapier, which is a sizeable loss of DPS that will cost more than 4 hours of the difference between this build and the Slicing Winds build.

Analysis

Essentially, we want to know which of two sequences is faster:

  • Rapier → Claw → Volcano,
  • Rapier → Volcano → Claw.

Full-Sunset Volcano vs Full-Claw Volcano

Let's consider the builds Rapier and Slicing Winds.

The difference between their timings of completing the claw is 19 hours.

The Volcano grind of the full ancient set is longer with the with Sunset Rapier than it is with the Claw.

The question is then if the difference between the rapier and the claw in the Volcanic grind is bigger than 19 hours.

We know the length of "Rapier → Claw" and "Volcano → Claw", but we need the data on "Rapier → Volcano" and "Claw → Volcano".

We take this data from Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice.

Item Adjusted clears per hour
Sunset Rapier 5.204
Ancient Claw 5.412

The goal of clearing the Volcanic Cave is to get the ancient set.

As specified on in the Volcanic Cave/Guide, you need 1350 clears to almost certainly get a full set of Ancient armour or 832 clears to have a 75% chance. The median (50% of results) is 564 clears.

Item Adjusted clears per hour 564 clears (h) 832 clears (h) 1350 clears (h)
Sunset Rapier 5.204 108.4 160 259.4
Ancient Claw 5.412 104.2 153.7 249.5
Difference (h) 4.2 6.3 10.1

The biggest difference is 10 hours. It means that Rapier → Volcano → Claw is faster than Rapier → Claw → Volcano by at least 9 hours.

However, what if we were to use the Ancient Magicks as soon as we unlock it?

Sunset/Ancient Volcano vs Claw/Ancient Volcano

It is possible to clear the Volcano using Ancient Magicks with the build from Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic. Pay attention that you need 37% DR with 920 HP to idle it. That amount of DR is reached either through the Stone Skin prayer or through the DR potion II. Without prayer or potions, you need 940 HP.

If we consider that we clear only 100 Volcanoes as a melee build and the rest as the 100-Volcanoes Magic build, then we compare the two sequences:

  • Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
  • 100 Rapier Volcanoes + Claw farm with Ancient Magicks.
Item Adjusted clears per hour 100 clears (h)
Sunset Rapier 5.204 52.04
Ancient Claw 5.412 54.12
Difference (h) 2.08

In other words, the advantage of farming 100 Volcanic Caves with the Ancient Claw when compared to the Sunset Rapier is 2 hours.

Now we consider the rearranged sum of what we compare:

  • Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
  • Claw farm with Slicing Winds + 100 Rapier Volcanoes.

We subtract the second row from the first one and get

[math]\displaystyle{ 19 - 2.08 = 16.92 }[/math]

In other words the sequence where we farm the Claw after the Volcano is faster than the sequence of farming the claw with Rapier by 17 hours.

Conclusion

Farm the Ancient Claw with the Slicing Winds build right after you finish 100 Volcanic Caves. Don't forget to enable the Surge aurora.

If you cannot use this build for some reason, then use the Rapier melee build with Slayer gear.